Has anyone used this before?

[John Benton]

As the title says. Customer has asked me if I could quote for tiling kitchen/diner.

He's a distance away from me so I asked him to send photos of existing floor to see what was down already.

This is the existing floor looking from underneath the units, so chipboard floor on joists, what looks like mesh with mortar/adhesive and then ceramic tile on top.

He had flood water in the house about 7 years ago, none of the tiles de-bonded but a few areas of grout have popped a bit. Had structural engineer out to say that joists etc. are ok.

Just wondered if anybody has used this method or removed tiles that have been fixed this way.

 

[widler]

Looks to me like someone has laid EML in the addy while tiling john to make it stronger on the wood floor ,

 

[Brian the Tile]

Used to do it that way years ago ,sand and cement fixing on wooden floors

 

[John Benton]

It was done about 10 years ago apparently. Do you know how easy it will be to remove and potentially how much damage will it do to the chipboard?

 

[Time's Ran Out]

They look like an extruded terracotta type tile.
As Brian the tile many moons ago in a not too distant past we would lay a waterproof building paper over wood (usually t&g) then fix chicken mesh to the surface and overscreed with a sand and cement mortar. The tiles were then fix into this semi dry mix with a cement slurry.
Must be at least 30 years since I've had the pleasure of this method but that's not to say its not still done.
No crack mats, no flexible adhesives, no problems!
Tile on top if you don't want to take them up or be prepared to fill a skip and overboard, crack mat and flexible addy.
Price it well as you always do.

 

[Brian the Tile]

I would imagine that the full lot will come up with the tile,the mesh may have been stapled to the floor ,hard to tell really of the damage to sub floor untill you stsrtnto lift it i would say

 

[Brian the Tile]

Sorry ,start to lift it,was meant to say

 

[Mr Tiler]

is the mesh metal? if its blue plastic it looks like plastic ply n&c

 

[Mr Tiler]

is the mesh metal? if its blue plastic it looks like plastic ply n&c

sorry didnt read propperly, 10 years ago i doubt it was that product

 

[Taylormade]

It's a product called expamet ie expanded metal mesh. It was used some years ago laid straight onto timber floors. Two types either stainless (expensive!) or galvanised. Normally tacked down with horse shoe nails as I call them. Then standard concrete adhesive. If sub floor was tongue and groove it generally worked. If sub floor was chipboard then it was a no no. Pig of a job to take up.

 

[John Benton]

It's a product called expamet ie expanded metal mesh. It was used some years ago laid straight onto timber floors. Two types either stainless (expensive!) or galvanised. Normally tacked down with horse shoe nails as I call them. Then standard concrete adhesive. If sub floor was tongue and groove it generally worked. If sub floor was chipboard then it was a no no. Pig of a job to take up.

Definitely directly onto chipboard so chances are it could damage it badly enough to replace floor.

 

[Taylormade]

You won't know until you take it up but prep for worst case scenario ie to replace the floor. Also if it's been water damaged it may well need replacing anyway.

 

[afright]

Used to do it that way years ago ,sand and cement fixing on wooden floors

Same as Brian,that was the only way to tile onto wooden floors in the dark ages.

 

[Just Rizzle]

tiling today is so so easy compaired to the past. THANK GOD. yes chicken wire and tin snips ,semi dry screeds and cement slerry to stick them down after over night soak in a bath of water. todays tillers have it so easy

 

[nybor62]

many moons ago since i used that method