help with tiling adhesives and grout pls!

[diybeginner88]

I know Mopei and Bal.. are probably the best products to use for tiling, however, they are very expensive. Can anyone tell me if Wickes wall and floor rapid set adhesive powder ok to use? They are a lot cheaper, also, the customer reviews in the site seem very impressive; are they genuine?

Also, I have already used them to tile my conservatory 2 months ago, so far, it looks real good and it was quite easy to use as well. Having said that I barely clean the floor with water.

I have already bought 2 big bags of adhesives and grout for my kitchen floor, I am really tempted to use them. However, unlike the conservatory, the kitchen needed to be mopped with water frequently, will this be a problem?

Desperato.

 

[nybor62]

sorry never used it , i would go for mapei , for peace of mind , im a firm believer in you get what you pay for, are the tiles ceramic or porcelain

 

[diybeginner88]

So, the worry is that the tiles might come off when contact with water, am I right?

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[jay]

hi what size tile and whats the substrate

 

[Deleted member 9966]

if tiles are fixed properly, with the right materials, no amount of mopping will cause the tiles to debond.

if you have used Wickes own brand adhesives and grouts, and you're happy with them, I see no reason why you should change the brand now, however I am only a DIYer like yourself. The professionals use what they are comfortable with, and me being a non-pro, I use what I feel comfortable with. I have used both BAL and Mapei in the past, my preference is BAL as I felt I could mix it better, but the top brands are top because they are good quality.

 

[nybor62]

no your not flooding the floor , only mopping , im just saying i would go for mapei, the chances are wicks adhesive might be fine, but i am aware of cases were there adhesive as failed . might be down to poor prep work , not mixed properly , but as i said earlier mapei for me

 

[diybeginner88]

The tiling area is less than 9m2,
4/5 of the floor is laid with some very old red quarry tiles and the rest is screed which is laid from last Sept. The tile I am going to use is 13"X13" ceramic tiles.

Also, I have bought a big bucket of PVA from Wickes which I used to seal my conservatory floor before I tiled the floor. Can I do the same for my kitchen floor, even on the old quarry tile?

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[Deleted member 9966]

STOP!

Do not use PVA anywhere. PVA has no place in modern tiling techniques. You need an acrylic primer.

I assume you're intending to tile over the existing quarry tiles?

 

[jay]

okay got the picture dont recomend the pva it has no place in tiling recomend using an acryilic primer i would recomend up grading your adh to a better brand that is recomended over tiles posabily a c2 standard take existing tiles are solid not drummie at all surface will need roughing up so adh can grab are existing tiles laid on concrete as well

 

[nybor62]

pva is no good do not use as a primer .you will need to give the quarry tiles a good clean , with sugar soap .are the quarry tiles solid , is the screed solid ,any cracks from movement

 

[diybeginner88]

yes! So, I assme I can get it from general dyi store, any specific brand or anyone will do?

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[Deleted member 9966]

yes! So, I assme I can get it from general dyi store, any specific brand or anyone will do?

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you can't get professional adhesives from DIY shops. contact your nearest Tile Giant store and then can help you.

 

[diybeginner88]

pva is no good do not use as a primer .you will need to give the quarry tiles a good clean , with sugar soap .are the quarry tiles solid , is the screed solid ,any cracks from movement

The quarry tiles are very solid, so is the screed, only that it got holes in it as I walked on it before it is set properly.

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[diybeginner88]

you can't get professional adhesives from DIY shops. contact your nearest Tile Giant store and then can help you.

I got a toppiles nearby, will they stock the primer?

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[Deleted member 9966]

I got a toppiles nearby, will they stock the primer?

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Topps stock BAL adhesives grouts and primers
Tile Giant stock Mapei adhesives grouts and primers