Hi Everyone!

[DEWALT]

Hi Pete, thanks for the welcome! It'll take me a little while to adapt and work out the forum etiquette etc. but I'm looking forward to helping you, Julian and the rest of the gang out where I can, but more importantly learn more from you guys about your tile saws and tools!

Cheers,

Roy.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Roy - welcome.
Unlike Dave I've never met you but the Dewalt is the best wet cutter I've had in the 42 years since my pin hammer and chisel!

 

[Old Mod]

Hi Roy,
as you're looking at tile saws I have a request please.
A saw similar to the Rubi TC 180 (which I currently own) but based more on your own DWS 520KR and the Festool TS 55 (which I also own) Something based on a rail guided plunge saw with complete blade coverage for good dust extraction, like the others I've mentioned and with the finèss of adjustment like that of a joiners plunge saw and if I'm really pushing my luck with wet cut facility too! Oh and a larger bore with the addition of reducing rings too. ..... Not forgetting the ability to mitre of course, think that covers it! Oh and at a price comparative to established plunge saws 🙂
....... and as I'm not greedy, 1% of the net profit for the idea! Haha cos it'll sell!
Yours in hope Marc.

 

[DEWALT]

Hi Marc,

I hope to dig into the frustrations you guys have cutting tiles. The last time I spent time scoping out opportunities (back in 2006) one of the most common issues I would hear was the ever increasing sizes of tiles - a trend that for me was signaled when Rubi launched their TX-1200 to accommodate 1 metre square tiles!

As a result we developed a prototype electric saw that ran on the DEWALT DWS520 plunge saw rail, sadly a concept that never materialised.

The Rubi TC-180 looks a neat saw but there is plenty of opportunity to be innovative and allow for increased flexibility for different types of cut together with effective dust extraction. Another opportunity added to the list!

Do you see any benefit for a cordless (battery powered) saw? I know the Makita CC300DZ was a popular little tool, it just lacked the grunt for thicker and harder tiles.

Everything is going cordless now, the cost of batteries and the run time available from the latest 5.0Ah and 6.0Ah packs means anything is possible!

 

[DEWALT]

Roy - welcome.
Unlike Dave I've never met you but the Dewalt is the best wet cutter I've had in the 42 years since my pin hammer and chisel!

Hey Dave, being just up the road in Newcastle I hope this will change!

We are scoping out potential tile saw opportunities so I need to get back out and start talking tile saws, it's been a while!

The D24000 has been a great saw, never originally intended for sale in Europe (the US are very much into their sliding bed saws) as at the time the UK was very much into rail / bridge saws for the larger tiles. We decided to give it ago and it took off!

There is so much opportunity for adding innovative features to tile saws, it surprises me how many new saws are launched without any consideration for water containment and a low priority on cut accuracy and overall durability. I think this is where the D24000 excels which isn't bad for a 10 year old design - it first launched in 2004!

 

[Old Mod]

Hi Marc,

I hope to dig into the frustrations you guys have cutting tiles. The last time I spent time scoping out opportunities (back in 2006) one of the most common issues I would hear was the ever increasing sizes of tiles - a trend that for me was signaled when Rubi launched their TX-1200 to accommodate 1 metre square tiles!

As a result we developed a prototype electric saw that ran on the DEWALT DWS520 plunge saw rail, sadly a concept that never materialised.

The Rubi TC-180 looks a neat saw but there is plenty of opportunity to be innovative and allow for increased flexibility for different types of cut together with effective dust extraction. Another opportunity added to the list!

Do you see any benefit for a cordless (battery powered) saw? I know the Makita CC300DZ was a popular little tool, it just lacked the grunt for thicker and harder tiles.

Everything is going cordless now, the cost of batteries and the run time available from the latest 5.0Ah and 6.0Ah packs means anything is possible!

Hey Roy,
Yeah obviously cordless would be great, but could they deliver the power required for cutting the heavy porcelain that's increasingly being used now? Quite often with the work I do I have to cut everything outside because the client will just not allow it in their home, so cordless is obviously more convenient.
I also find that sometimes if you're using a less powerful machine the quality of the cut suffers even with an expensive high end blade.
As far as the TC 180 goes it's a great machine, but it has pitfalls, the most annoying being no mitre facility.
I cut these glass tiles with the Rubi and a Montolit blade, but all the external edges had to be mitred, sadly the Rubi was a no go and I had to use a different cutter which was not so user friendly.

 

[DEWALT]

Wow, nice looking tiles, great job too, puts my bathroom to shame!

Up until fairly recently cordless power tools were reserved for drill drivers, wood cutting trim saws, torches and radios etc.

Things are changing though, and fast. I can't be too specific but in the next few years there will be a raft of new cordless technologies coming to market that will allow us to properly challenge the traditionally corded-only applications.

You will see most of the power tool manufacturers (notably Milwaukee and their 18V FUEL system) making some very bold claims around cordless tools now performing a lot of corded applications. Intelligent electronics, brushless motors and low impedance cells in the battery all allow for improved power outputs.

There is nothing worse than when a saw bogs down and chips the tile so your feedback on the required RPM is helpful, thanks!

 

[Old Mod]

Well I'll be more than happy to field test anything u may have now or in the future! Haha 🙄

 

[DEWALT]

I'll be looking for plenty of guinea pigs at some point in the not too distant future - hence me getting myself back on here 😉

I appreciate the warm welcome gents!

 

[Ian]

Welcome along to TF