Hi Everyone!

[Old Mod]

Hi Marc,

I hope to dig into the frustrations you guys have cutting tiles. The last time I spent time scoping out opportunities (back in 2006) one of the most common issues I would hear was the ever increasing sizes of tiles - a trend that for me was signaled when Rubi launched their TX-1200 to accommodate 1 metre square tiles!

As a result we developed a prototype electric saw that ran on the DEWALT DWS520 plunge saw rail, sadly a concept that never materialised.

The Rubi TC-180 looks a neat saw but there is plenty of opportunity to be innovative and allow for increased flexibility for different types of cut together with effective dust extraction. Another opportunity added to the list!

Do you see any benefit for a cordless (battery powered) saw? I know the Makita CC300DZ was a popular little tool, it just lacked the grunt for thicker and harder tiles.

Everything is going cordless now, the cost of batteries and the run time available from the latest 5.0Ah and 6.0Ah packs means anything is possible!

Hey Roy,
Yeah obviously cordless would be great, but could they deliver the power required for cutting the heavy porcelain that's increasingly being used now? Quite often with the work I do I have to cut everything outside because the client will just not allow it in their home, so cordless is obviously more convenient.
I also find that sometimes if you're using a less powerful machine the quality of the cut suffers even with an expensive high end blade.
As far as the TC 180 goes it's a great machine, but it has pitfalls, the most annoying being no mitre facility.
I cut these glass tiles with the Rubi and a Montolit blade, but all the external edges had to be mitred, sadly the Rubi was a no go and I had to use a different cutter which was not so user friendly.

 

[DEWALT]

Wow, nice looking tiles, great job too, puts my bathroom to shame!

Up until fairly recently cordless power tools were reserved for drill drivers, wood cutting trim saws, torches and radios etc.

Things are changing though, and fast. I can't be too specific but in the next few years there will be a raft of new cordless technologies coming to market that will allow us to properly challenge the traditionally corded-only applications.

You will see most of the power tool manufacturers (notably Milwaukee and their 18V FUEL system) making some very bold claims around cordless tools now performing a lot of corded applications. Intelligent electronics, brushless motors and low impedance cells in the battery all allow for improved power outputs.

There is nothing worse than when a saw bogs down and chips the tile so your feedback on the required RPM is helpful, thanks!

 

[Old Mod]

Well I'll be more than happy to field test anything u may have now or in the future! Haha

 

[DEWALT]

I'll be looking for plenty of guinea pigs at some point in the not too distant future - hence me getting myself back on here

I appreciate the warm welcome gents!

 

[Ian]

Welcome along to TF

 

[J Sid]

Hi Roy
Something I would really love is a retro fit extension to the runners on my D24000 to enable a larger tile to be cut without the need to turn tile.
And yes, would be happy to test this for you ( don't forget my royalties).

 

[gamma38]

Welcome Roy, I have recently just sold my 2400, as I didn't really use it too much. I would however be quite interested in a rail saw, corded or cordless. As Marc says though it would have to have either good dust extraction and or a wet cut facilty, and of course mitre. The main reason I have never bought the Rubi one.

 

[Qwerty]

Welcome. Love my D24000. I do wish the pump guard was stronger and that the measurements on the rule on the sliding bed were closer to the face of the tile and more accurate also.

 

[DEWALT]

Welcome along to TF

Great colour van, you just need some DEWALT stickers for it now!

 

[DEWALT]

Hi Roy
Something I would really love is a retro fit extension to the runners on my D24000 to enable a larger tile to be cut without the need to turn tile.
And yes, would be happy to test this for you ( don't forget my royalties).

Hi Julian,

Some good points there, it isn't usually the front to back capacity people have issue with, more so the width of the tile or left to right capacity, which in the case of the D24000 is restricted by the motor head support arm. Longer runners may mean the ability to catch the water run-off in the trays could be compromised and we'd need to ensure the cut accuracy is maintained but if longer tiles are becoming an issue it will be something that could be explored. I'll add it to the list, thanks!

 

[DEWALT]

Welcome Roy, I have recently just sold my 2400, as I didn't really use it too much. I would however be quite interested in a rail saw, corded or cordless. As Marc says though it would have to have either good dust extraction and or a wet cut facilty, and of course mitre. The main reason I have never bought the Rubi one.

A rail saw is definitely something that we need.

A proper one though, an all new ground-up design. The ones I see out there today seem to be based on fairly basic masonry or stone cutting saws which are themselves based on wood cutting circular saws.

Points to note:

Dust extraction (compatible with the DEWALT AirLock system).
Water feed (on board gravity fed water bottle or mains hose pipe attachment?).
Ability to both mitre / bevel.

 

[DEWALT]

Welcome. Love my D24000. I do wish the pump guard was stronger and that the measurements on the rule on the sliding bed were closer to the face of the tile and more accurate also.

The little cap that covers the impeller is indeed a weak point but one that is unfortunately inherent to the design of the pump and therefore not easily modified. We actually source the pump from a well respected pump manufacturer called Little Giant and have fed this issue back to them on numerous occasions. I'll make some further inquiries. Let me know if you are missing any parts and I'll see what I can do to help.

Did you know the scale marker is adjustable? It is possible over time for the scale to move so the two securing screws can be loosened and the scale realigned if needed (see attached picture).

 

[gamma38]

Definitely not a gravity feed bottle in my opinion. I would prefer a hose end connection with a valve to vary the flow rate.

 

[Gazzer]

The Dw24000 i have has been an awesome work horse but if i could have one upgrade it would be a more powerful motor. Some stone will bog it down but if you let the saw and obviously a decent blade do its work then its ok.
I have the hand held saw too but only used a few times.
I still think there is room for improvent on battery powered angle grinders, focussing on a better grip, battery life and quick changing wheels.
Also cables for mains grinders, can they be the softer type material. In the colder weather they are too stiff...moan over