History lessson needed from skilled Shower Installers !!!

[Cottage lady]

Hi IHB

I hope you are not asking ME that question ??!

We need an expert to answer ....

 

[Cottage lady]

Whitebeam ... again many thanks. You clearly have a lot of past experience ... I am grateful for you passing that fact on

 

[Chalker]

Hello Chalker and thank you for your interest

Yes we have an interesting issue here and of course no relevant knowledge. You mention "Tanking systems have been around for quite some time" ... do you mean in 2007/2008 ?

To be honest, a tanking kit will only stop the water from causing damage to the substrate behind the tiles.it shouldn't be leaking in the first place.
I have removed many bathrooms fitted out with ply or plasterboard that have not leaked or caused any damage.
PA builder I do plumbing for will only fit ply to showers. Even though I tell him there are better products out there. But he won't listen, as up to now he has not had any problems because the tiler he uses ( not me) does a good job, so it does not leak!

 

[Martyn Leeds]

Give and take and all that..

I'd like to know exactly why the specific question??


Even though I can guess exactly why....

 

[One Day]

It's starting legal....!

 

[Cottage lady]

Chalker ... you are hitting another nail on the head tonight ... the tiling was not good and water seeped in to the ply that had only been treated with PVA or SBR

What is you reaction to that then ?

 

[jonnyc]

Why not tell us what your bathroom fitters actually did.it may be that they used an adhesive that was deemed suitable at that time on a ply substrate.you seem to trying to prove what they did was wrong without asking if what they did may have been ok first.their method may not have been the best available but it may have been acceptable st

 

[Chalker]

Chalker ... you are hitting another nail on the head tonight ... the tiling was not good and water seeped in to the ply that had only been treated with PVA or SBR

What is you reaction to that then ?

my reaction would be. It's lasted 7 years so its out of guarantee. This can't have suddenly happened. Did you notice any signs in the past 7 years? Did you give the installer chance to rectify when first noticed.
also this hasn't happened in the last few days so you, unfortunately should take a part of the blame. Was there any grout missing, any Silicon that needed replacing.or is this a new house that has had some natural settlement.
could you post some pics? or say exactly what has happened so a constructive reply can be sought . Otherwise we are just guessing.

 

[Spud]

The British standard was updated in 2009 and I believe from then it was recommended that all new build wet areas should be tanked ,tanking products have been available for over 20 years

 

[Old Mod]

Didn't we have a thread the other day about someone being asked to provide a report on bad workmanship?
And if I'm not mistaken, it was stated quite categorically that we were not qualified enough to make such a statement and that it would not be accepted in a legal capacity!

 

[White Room]

Thats right Marc, experience does'nt seem to count for anything but a shed load of qualifications does....

 

[Perry]

I have been a expert witness in a court case for someone that came on here and was treated as one by the judge. And my report was the sole reason for winning the case.

 

[The D]

i have not read the full thread but tiling on to ply is not good having said that the definition of tiling is to provide a water proof and reasonably flat surface covering.

 

[Cottage lady]

Thank you Gary

This was all I was asking really .... certainly not seeking any legal advice here !
I am grateful for all the opinions received .... my thanks to you all.

 

[Old Mod]

This was all I was asking really .... certainly not seeking any legal advice here !
I am grateful for all the opinions received .... my thanks to you all.

It wasn't suggested that you were seeking legal advice at all, as well you know! My objection is in which manor you chose to gather your information! You been ambiguous at best with the information supplied in the hope, it would certainly appear, to help you take action against another party! Personally for me that is an insult to my intelligence and underhand! It appears from MY perspective that you asking us to help you bring a case against some work carried out some 6-7yrs ago without relaying all the relevant information so that we can decide for ourselves whether or not it is in fact poor workmanship! Apart from the fact that you could have suffered an earthquake in your area causing subsidence in your surrounding district! Excessive example? Yes of course! But it relays my objection to this method of gleaning information. Perhaps if you had been upfront with your problem initially it wouldn't have attracted such a cynical view from some members! And I know for sure you would have collected the information you required without alienating decent members of a forum who do their level best to help!