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Spud

why are you worrying about speed? A contractor will offer you price work at a m2 rate its then up to you to try and earn a days money out of it , at the beginning of your career you will find it incredibly tough and wont even take a break for a sandwich, work until you are the last person onsite and not make a decent days money .over time you will speed up to the point you will make your money by lunchtime and be driving home grouted up by 3.30. the better you become the more technical work you are given and then you end up doing less meterage and working longer hours but will have a nice portfoloio of work but will only earn wages thats my opinion any way good luck , Gary
 
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The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP

:thumbsup:Tilers are like fishermen "it was this big, but it got away" over the years I have worked with hundreds if not thousands of tilers, some just talk a good job with their "I am this, have done that" then I have worked with some real craftsmen who just get on with it and do a top class job at phenomenal speed. I have told this story before but it is worth re-telling on this thread as it sums up some tilers.

I will change the location of the job and the "tilers" town of origin just in case this guy is on here. I was running a job in ********* city centre. One morning this tiler rocks up and asks' are you Phil Hobson? I say yep, he says they call me the ****** flyer, you have probably heard of me. I say actually no sorry I havn't.

This job was 13 floors on each floor was a ladies, gents, and disabled toilets, quite simple work really. I explained to the "flyer" that it was just 8"x4" portrait with a coloured band at dado height, there was about 30m2 in each room. The flyer turns to his mate and points to the first room and says "today aufwiedersehen" tomorrow pointing to the next room," aufwiedershen," Wednesday the next room " "aufwiedershen" .

Four days later he was still in the first room putting the border where it should have been, and patching rough work. The flyer did not last long, but he thought he was good, I'm sure his mum loved him bless. Moral of the story is don't talk the talk, unless you are sure you can walk the walk.:thumbsup:
 
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Eduardo

So true,I think many tilers are called 'flyer', just because they were lucky to do many meters in one day.On the other side,I had occasion to see with my eyes many tilers really faster.We went on a large project (250 apartments),one guy was doing ​​2 bathroom in one day,40 m2,and really good work,and all day make the same.In another site,a team of father and 2 sons done in one day 120 m2 vibration tiling with small tiles(7x14 cm),grouted.Another good tiler,in the same house with me has made ​​1 bathroom and kitchen the same day,grouted and good work(bathroom was 18 m2,and kitchen 15 m2).To be fast you must have a system that does not fail, and long long practice.
 
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SJPurdy

Anouther factor to consider is when you are working on a private lived in house, as opposed to a (usually) messy dirty new construction is that you will have to allow the best part of a hour each day to dust sheet up between the entrance door and the room you are working in, and clean up at the end of the day. So if otherwise you would have fitted say 8m2 in the 8 hours you will only fit 7m2! You will also waste time on the first day explaining to the customer that the tiles they have been sold are actually to heavy for the walls that they have and you don't recommend fixing then etc etc

The biggest factors though are the types of tile and the complexity of the work as stated by many others.
Consider a kitchen with 10 x 10 porcelain with different colours which have to be randomly fixed without the same colour tile being adjacent to the same colour tile; lots of sockets (usually all at different heights); window sill (it wont be flat!) and pelmets to be tacken off trimmed and refitted. I know i'm lucky to fit 4m2/day like this and then it needs grouting and Silicon rubber sealant.
 
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Diamond Pool Finishers

Well i have laid 50-70 mtr2 of mosaic in a day quite often on big swimming pool floors ,with everything ready to go IE, mosaic all unpacked and stacked in in piles working out of pool and all my kit is on wheels so i'am pretty rapido, .
Then i have been fixing the stone in my wetroom for about 3-4 years :yikes: about 20m2 lol ( Don't remind the wife !!!!) she has forgotten just now :lol:
 
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Eduardo

Well i have laid 50-70 mtr2 of mosaic in a day quite often on big swimming pool floors ,with everything ready to go IE, mosaic all unpacked and stacked in in piles working out of pool and all my kit is on wheels so i'am pretty rapido, .
Then i have been fixing the stone in my wetroom for about 3-4 years :yikes: about 20m2 lol ( Don't remind the wife !!!!) she has forgotten just now :lol:

Shoemaker always walk with broken shoes....
 
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The D

The original question was (As a rough guide how many meters squared (m2) would a contractor expect in a 8.5hr day on site.)

Unless something has drastically changed in the last few years the answer is 7-10
No one is asking what is the most you have fixed or how many meters you can do in a day on a domestic job are they?
Some firms may have a different average but all the firms I have worked for over the years and I have worked for one or two have all worked on the bases of 7-10 m2 per day.
you may do 15 m2 on Monday (possibly all the straight walls)
then on Tuesday you do 12 m2 (could be a nice little en-suite )
Wednesday you do a 15 m2 floor
Thursday you do a 5 m2 kitchen walls
Friday you grout it all and it is job and knock
Total 47m2 divided by 5 days is 9.4 m2 per day
Some lads will smash this and some will struggle to hit it but with all the things that have to be taken in to consideration for my money 7-10 will be the normal daily average
 
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The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP

I like the sound of this guy,surly this happened a few decades ago? If someone introduced themselves like that

these days you would just need to laugh.... So phill, what was your nickname back in the days??
my nickname back then and I believe it still is I only found out about 3yrs ago I was known by the Manchester lads as half a mill Phil, that is another story I have told it on here before.:thumbsup:
 

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my nickname back then and I believe it still is I only found out about 3yrs ago I was known by the Manchester lads as half a mill Phil, that is another story I have told it on here before.:thumbsup:

And now you've made that million there's no looking back :lol: I'm being kind there Phil
 

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