is this a tilers forum

[doug boardley]

we all bang on about chancers mucking up tiling jobs and getting the trade licensed and then give away advice on how do OUR trade to non tilers, its madness to be honest

that's because they usually find the forum after the job is done (and mucked up). It'd be a boring forum if all we were doing was slapping each other on the back, again this is just my view on it and what I think the ethos of the forum is all about.

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Sod, sorry Mike my slow typing again.

 

[kendo1]

If someone is going to do their own tiling- they will, with or without our help. They might as well do it properly.
I don't have a problem with helping others in the trade with suggestions/help, and I'm grateful for the knowledge that I have gained here. It's up to me to make that knowledge in to skill.

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

hi bri this is what a tilers forum is for helping each other out no one knows it all . should our well earned knowledge be given away .to anybody the only way to make our trade stand out .is to stand together.its about time we had a trade body .tilers should be rated starting at inprover .then going on to tiler .then to master tiler .as long as we give free advice to anyone and there dogs we will be under valued are we happy with that.

 

[doug boardley]

I suppose actually the solution is very simple, if you don't want to give someone advice who's asking for it, don't post in that thread.

 

[Ian]

Ok here's another way of looking at it, when I send out quotes to clients I give a full detailed list of works to be carried out and materials that will be used, this gives them reassurance that the correct methods and products are being used and, in reality, they could use this information to do the jobs themselves. Giving out this type of information, more often than not gets me a job because I have won the confidence of the client and given them details that they can check out online.

 

[Spud]

Any one can talk a good tiling job doing a good tiling job is another kettle of fish that is where experience and pride in your work comes in, some tilers are naturally gifted some just are so determined that they will rip down a days work because they are not happy with it and redo it until it goes in right and dont care if they loose money by doing it again

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

I think the main attraction of this forum is, we are mostly, like minded people, who have the future of this industry uppermost in our thoughts. We can all have different opinions, and agree to disagree now and then, but we all have the same goal, to improve the skill levels in our industry, and promote excellence as much as we can.

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

talking to a client and giving them the info is one thing .giving the info to anybody is another. we need to put a value on our skill and knowedge.and who gets it .

 

[Colour Republic]

I think openness of how skilled you are will gain you work not turn it away.

I know a very successful kitchen painter who publishes an incredible amount of info on his website Painter and decorator in Cheshire & NW, specialising in hand-painting kitchens & listed building redecoration. | on how to go about it. Far from losing him work it gains him work All over the country! Potential customers or DIYers realise that he knows what he's talking about and understand it's not as easy as they once thought. It also establishes him as an expert and an authority on the subject for which people are willing to pay a premium for rather than let loose any old fool with a paint brush. It has also lead to starting a national network of highly skilled kitchen painters ensuring high standards and top end work for them too. Hand-painted kitchen specialists in UK |

I'm sure many have gained work from TF and have been approached by customers who have sort them out after reading their posts.

This forum can give someone the knowledge to complete a task but it can't give them the skill to undertake it. I think by giving the info out will have resulted in the general public employing a decent tiler (as they know how to spot a fake chancer ) just as much as it would have empowered them to try themselves

 

[Ian]

Any one can talk a good tiling job doing a good tiling job is another kettle of fish that is where experience and pride in your work comes in, some tilers are naturally gifted some just are so determined that they will rip down a days work because they are not happy with it and redo it until it goes in right and dont care if they loose money by doing it again

And maybe the information we hand out is helping the cowboys talk a good job. You are bang on with the pride aspect, but would a cowboy or chancer spend the amount of time we all do on here to get the information? I'm not sure what the best answer to the opening post is, all I know is, I've gained more than I've lost from contributing to this forum.

 

[Colour Republic]

And maybe the information we hand out is helping the cowboys talk a good job.

Hopefully they would have learnt enough to stop them from being cowboys

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

when your work and knowledge stand out work will always come your way .why because you know more .keep the knowledge to your self.you have earned it .only pass on to those who are worthy .and you respect

 

[Ian]

The thing is Ray, a lot of my knowledge has come from people on here so, if I wasn't willing to give some back, wouldn't that be wrong?

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

look if you are going to give advice to diyers then set up a forum for charites donations ie for help for heores or a cancer chartey or hospice so some one benfitts from our knoledge