It must be monday....

[stusgsx]

Turned up to this job this morning. Customer has "tanked" the room with N&C wet room kit but the membrane has not been stuck to the floor at all and then it has had warmup boards stuck on top badly and big bits missing and look at the overlapping wires. Nice! Told them its got to come up.

 

[PuPPeT]

like they say.wanna job done.....do it urself.thats all u need on a monday morning.

 

[Dan]

Oh dear!

So the customer's done all this themselves and then wanted you to tile over it all?

 

[stusgsx]

Yep!
The red membrane is not stuck down at all. I could pull the whole floor up if I lift the membrane.
The thermal boards have been slapped down roughly and not supported in the corners and are lifting with and without the membrane and then we have the ufh which will surely burn out if left like this anyway.
I'm cracking on with the walls today instead

 

[Dan]

It definitely needs pulling up. I wonder where the customers seeked the advice to do it like that?!

 

[Ian]

They should have read my UFH step by step installation guide!


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[John Benton]

They should have read my UFH step by step installation guide!


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They should Bri, it clearly states, 'MAKE SURE YOU OVERLAP WIRES AT REGULAR INTERVALS' so as to cause maximum damage and ultimate failure of UFH. Doesn't it say that on every install manual :mad2:

 

[Dan]

For future reference that article is here: Tiling Forum - Installing electric underfloor heating - Step by Step Guide

 

[stusgsx]

Maybe I should print that off and give it to the customer!
Floor is being taken up this evening apparently.
I won't hold my breath that it's going to be perfect though

 

[paul flight]

why do these people think they can save a few quid and do it . a 10 year old that can read instructions would have done better ahhhhhhhhhh

 

[stusgsx]

OK little update!
Apparently the sparky came round last night and said there is nothing he can do about the wires overlapping and that it will be fine!

The membrane has been taken up in the shower area and stuck down but it's probably not waterproof now.
The rest of the floor has been left unstuck oh except for I now have a section of 12.5 pb put in the gap where there was no warmup board!

I've told them I'm not guaranteeing any of the floor and they said that's fine.

Am I doing the right thing or should I refuse to do it?

 

[Dan]

The underfloor heating wot be fine with cables overlapping. And water + electric? I'd rather not guess the outcome myself.

I would refuse to do it on the grounds that it's been prepared really poorly. Surely only a days work to put it right?


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[stusgsx]

I've told them the floor has to come up but it seems they just are not bothered that it's going to fail.

The ufh kit is far too big for this room so I bet the sparky told them that but they didn't want to buy a smaller kit.

What a nightmare

 

[ishi69]

Have you been paid for this job yet, do you trust the customer cos if it was me I'd be off. He seems not to really care about the work at all so there's probably a good chance he's not going to be to bothered about paying you.

 

[Olz]

If you've already started walls, finish them and get paid for them, tell them to do floor themselves or get someone else.

Tell them to slc floor and lay some lino over it whilst they run uhf for a few months, tell them no point in tiling it as ill be more for them to remove when it burns out over the next month,