please help us!!!! my husband is not at all new to diy and we have renovated thre houses in our 27 years of marriage and lived in them all happily till moving on.The problem is now he is losing confidence in himself and we are doing the bathroom for the 4th time in the same house and hopefully the last! The place we have bought the tiles for the bathroom have supplied us with soverign gripmaster adhesive and the tiles are 33x50cm,he tiled the shower area on sat 13th feb and we have noticed tonight that some of the tiles are loose at the corners so he has started to remove them,hence i have had tears,there is no adhesive on the back of the tles but the adhesive is coming off the wall by scraping,he has now given up as certtain areas need chisseling off. we really went to town to get this right and even put aquapanel in the shower area,what has he done wrong? advice really appreciated,thanks,maz.
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grumpygrouter
Hi Maz, I have moved your question to it's own thread. It will get a better response here.
Welcome to the forums. I am sure you will receive plenty of help.
Welcome to the forums. I am sure you will receive plenty of help.
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DHTiling
The tile is too big for that adhesive and is not drying properly..
You will need a slow setting cement based adhesibe and preferbly in white.
Tell hubbs to use a deeper notch trowel to make sure he gets a better coverge on the tiles..
You will need a slow setting cement based adhesibe and preferbly in white.
Tell hubbs to use a deeper notch trowel to make sure he gets a better coverge on the tiles..
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White Room
Gripmaster is a tubbed dispersion adhesive and dries by evaporation, the adhesive would have taken forever with tile size you were fixing.
You should have been advised by the shop that sold you the adhesive/tiles that a powdered single part flexible would have been the right one to use
You should have been advised by the shop that sold you the adhesive/tiles that a powdered single part flexible would have been the right one to use
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doug boardley
I've never used sovereign gripmaster, but I'm assuming it's a dispersion, ie tubbed adhesive, your tiles are too large for this type of adhesive, you need a cementitious (powder,bagged) adhesive. Make sure the back of your tiles are free from dust and give a slight twisting motion when offering them into the adhesive (spread onto the aquapanel with a 8mm square notch trowel), this should work for you
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doug boardley
ha ha those guys above are faster typists than me!:lol:
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diamondtiling
The supplier owes you an explanation and some compensation, why do they insist on tubbed adhesive??
Numptys........:incazzato:
Numptys........:incazzato:
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doug boardley
I would, and take the job lot back to the numpty that advised you that it was ok
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White Room
Just to get this straight you said what grout/adhesive you wanted
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DHTiling
You will be able to remove what you have put on and use another better adhesive and they will go back on as you have took them off... just stuck on better..
hubby now gone to bed with strong cup of tea and a few more grey hairs!! ther is no tile adhesive at all on the backs of the tiles!! but as the grout is exsposed to the air it is now getting harder to get of the aqua panel,we didnt ask for specific adhesive and grout they just supplied and charged us .
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White Room
As Doug said I'd be bringing my wrath to the tile shop who advised you wrongly and supplied badly.
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DHTiling
No probs.. see you tomorrow//:lol:
hubby wont let me go with the wrath to the tile shop or pmt!! as he says he must have done something wrong.
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White Room
Nothing your hubby has done.
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doug boardley
nope, bleeding tile shops need to educate their employees, it could be a case of misrepresentation if a person was injured!
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Alan.P
That to me sounds as if hubby has taken to long between applying adhesive to walls and fixing the tiles, the adhesive may have 'skinned' and that is why none has stuck to the tile, not to take away from the point of tubbed adhesive being used when it shouldn't have been.
Where are you in the country, maybe someone could pop in if needed, even if for a word or two and a cuppa 🙂
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doug boardley
No, we're not the Topps, we're better, we're professional tilers!:lol:
south anston,worksop,s25 5dj,that would be great! one sugar or two?
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White Room
Someone mentioned Tea:drool5:
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Alan.P
Your too far away lol.
I pass on a regular basis, would have been tomorrow but a job was cancelled. If your still in need when I pass next, I'll pop in for sure
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doug boardley
where's Worksop then? gotta be midlandsish with a name like that, Staffs, Derbyshire way?:lol:
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Alan.P
Off the M1 by the M18 intersection
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White Room
Thats nearly Yorkshire, your right Alan a tad to far even for a cuppa
going to the tile shop today to see what they have to say about supplying the wrong adhesive for the job,hubby staying at home to try and get the grout off the walls that has set on contact with the air. do we have to get all of it off?and what adhesive have i got to get to make the job a good one?? many thanks for any advice.
you need to ask for a cement (powder) based flexible adhesive. you'll have to mix it yourself with water. if your tiles are white or a light colour get a white adhesive. the shop will prob try and give you a rapid set adhesive, just be careful when using rapid set as it will set really fast. you'll only get about 20-30mins bucket time. I'd advise you ask for a slow setting adhesive unless your husband is a quick tiler. goog
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