hi james should be intresting in some ways you are years a head of our tta in tile fixing about even but years behind on the changes going on in the tile world. never in my travels have i come apon such a group of tilers so set in there ways .you dont need to use a diamond wet saw for every cut on porcs:yikes: and there are tiles bigger than 2ft x2ft:yikes: look forward to some good banter :8: