Newby wants any advice available!

[Jimmy]

Hi, you seem quite tuned in if you are already prepared for leakes from the body jets!
The last one I worked on was for a friend who had it fitted by a fitter from the showroom where he bought it from , I ended up taking it all out , taking it apart and "sandwiching"every joint with Silicon . But avoid sealing around the inside of the screen , only seal the outside, as if any water gets into the internal section it fill it up and weep from any week joints(worst case) or smell horid(best case).
All that said you apear to be on top of things and if you fit it on flexible connections you can have a good play around the back while testing it , :hurray:
Hope this sheds some light.

 

[kickinside]

Thanks Jimmy,

I am intending on using flexible connections so it can come out with ease, also i had read about sealing he outside of the screen (but hadn't realized why - though now you say it it makes perfect sense!)

Silicon shall be applied to all joints in quantity as i really HATE leaking fittings!

Many thanks again for the wisdom!

 

[kickinside]

Quick update for you guys (partly by way of thanks!)...

Walls now stripped to bare brick and wire brushed (why is the easy to get at plaster ready to fall off in nice big chunks...but the stuff at the top of the wall resembles sheet amour from the bismark?).

Bagged, tailored to tip (flat tyre on the way - luckily had spare in car - ...much swearing!). Cold tap on sink destroyed (plaster fell on it turning it on...sink full of plaster crud i deployed a little too much force turning it off quickly....tap feed now capped off - to old to have isolator valves, this time the new sink gets them plus check valves as it will havea mixer on it...). Still never mind its going in the skip soon anyway!

Walls to be pva'd this week to seal prior to boarding at the weekend (of the first 50% of room i can get too) and waster/water fittings to shower installed hopefully - may get some tiles on the wall early next week!

I know its a slow (and wrong!) way to do it, but it means we keep a functional bathroom while i do it...and im not in that much of a hurry...

Anyway much nicer than my brother in law who is currently ripping out lath and plaster walls/ceilings - yummy (not!)

 

[kickinside]

Me again - going to get sick of me soon!:yikes:

ok getting all the stuff I need together to do this job and i actually looked at the tiles i have bought:smilewinkgrin:

Allegedly polished porcelain (400*400 20kg per square m, top higly polished, ot glazed i think as it doesn't extend to the sides at all)- from tile giant - got a very good price (i didn't know what i was buying but i knew it was cheap...or maybe not...)😳

Anyway been lurking and reading on here and I guess they should be sealed...but when i look at he tiles (virgin out of the box) they have been 'wiped' with something (if you imagine a car bonnet after you have waxed it and before you buff it up thats similar - you can see the wipe marks in it) its hard as nails, a right git to try and polish off and if you drip water on top of it it beads like it was on oil.....does this sound like they are pre-sealed? Any tips other then a elbow grease on removing the 'haze'

see i told you i was new at this....

 

[Adam Coates]

Me again - going to get sick of me soon!:yikes:

ok getting all the stuff I need together to do this job and i actually looked at the tiles i have bought:smilewinkgrin:

Allegedly polished porcelain (400*400 20kg per square m, top higly polished, ot glazed i think as it doesn't extend to the sides at all)- from tile giant - got a very good price (i didn't know what i was buying but i knew it was cheap...or maybe not...)😳

Anyway been lurking and reading on here and I guess they should be sealed...but when i look at he tiles (virgin out of the box) they have been 'wiped' with something (if you imagine a car bonnet after you have waxed it and before you buff it up thats similar - you can see the wipe marks in it) its hard as nails, a right git to try and polish off and if you drip water on top of it it beads like it was on oil.....does this sound like they are pre-sealed? Any tips other then a elbow grease on removing the 'haze'

see i told you i was new at this....

Hi there,
what was the name of the product you brought. as I might have the solutions for you. if it is a polished porcelain tile they should be sealed but you might want to clean them first. tile giant sell a product called ltp grimex to clean down the surface and ltp mpg sealer which will make them really shiny this is a one off coat and will help keep them clean as they will not smear as much

 

[obobsmith]

Me again - going to get sick of me soon!:yikes:

ok getting all the stuff I need together to do this job and i actually looked at the tiles i have bought:smilewinkgrin:

Allegedly polished porcelain (400*400 20kg per square m, top higly polished, ot glazed i think as it doesn't extend to the sides at all)- from tile giant - got a very good price (i didn't know what i was buying but i knew it was cheap...or maybe not...)😳

Anyway been lurking and reading on here and I guess they should be sealed...but when i look at he tiles (virgin out of the box) they have been 'wiped' with something (if you imagine a car bonnet after you have waxed it and before you buff it up thats similar - you can see the wipe marks in it) its hard as nails, a right git to try and polish off and if you drip water on top of it it beads like it was on oil.....does this sound like they are pre-sealed? Any tips other then a elbow grease on removing the 'haze'

see i told you i was new at this....

Haze (protective film ) needs to be removed with a suitable cleaner, it's also a good idea for you to seal tiles prior to fixing (just in case you dont work perfectly clean) and then after grouting, oh and have fun

 

[kickinside]

Hi Guys,

Sorry no update, been busy taking the walls back, boarding etc (and buying new car and some other stuff)...

I actually got the cleaning/sealing/adhesive (mapei keraquick - why did i not use this when i did the kitchen its wicked!) from tile giant as the tiles came from there and I now have the field tiles on one wall (window in it so not much work) and on half another wall...and thats where the problem started...

Having very care fully set out the first row (baton screwed to the wall- checked for straight and level, tiles spaced with 3mm pegs etc) i put the second row of tiles on - spaced off the bottom row with 3mm pegs - spaced between with 3mm pegs, all the tiles put on the same way up (ie the writing stamped into the back of them downwards in all cases) and the grout lines are running out wider bottom to top!:incazzato:

I was convinced it was me😳...checked everything with the spirit level again (they are beautifully flat - miracle seeing as i got he boards on with a slight dip between the joins) - anyway after tweaking nad not making it any better i left them on as they had set off pretty much and came back with my brother in law tonight...

He looked at it and couldn't work it out either - then he had a bright idea and we put a square on the tiles and measured them and they aint square! They run out approx 1mm wider at one end -not consistently but pretty close! (thanks tile giant!):mad2:

Now as i have a wall pretty much covered and two rows on the long wall its either go on or rip the tiles plus the board and adhesive off (which means redoing plumbing as well....)

We have decided to press ahead anyhow and have scribed the wall with true verticals representing the right edge of each column of the tiles and a are going to work to that taking the lack of squareness out with shims under the pegs on the horizontal grout lines...should be fun!

When i looked at the box's they were made in 2005 so i guess they are load of 'iffy' tiles that have been sitting about waiting for some poor sap to buy them (me)

Anyway lets say i wont be going back to tile giant anytime soon and had I realized earlier they would be getting the whole lot back - the only reason they wont is the rework required to make good the damage that taking them off the wall would cause to the wall!

Anyone know anywhere else to get mapie adhesive cos I will need more and i refuse to give TG any more of my cash on principle (as it seems to me 40*40 tiles should be at least square!)

Anyway guys thanks for all the help and i will keep you updated :8:

 

[faithhealer]

plenty of TG folk on here now, drop then a pm

 

[heatybob]

ummm this post could get interesting:incazzato:

 

[White Room]

You will sometimes get a variation in tile size, 1mm sounds good, I've had up to about 5mm