No more ply and joints

[Qwerty]

I've never used it and never will...... not whilst the are superior products out there!

 

[Flintstone]

Like what?

 

[Qwerty]

Marmox, wedi, schluter Kerdi

 

[Time's Ran Out]

I've never used it and never will...... not whilst the are superior products out there!

I've never used it and that's why I'am surprised as a board it's not taped!
Don't know of any tiling situation that wouldn't require it even with a good strong adhesive bond your still relying on the substrate to be secure.

I'am sure it's a case of now he's been advised by Tile Giant that these boards do not get taped and it's been done on the whole room, he's looking for confirmation that if it occurs elsewere he wants recompense from the installer or manufacturer for the excessive costs he's paid to have this room done 'correctly'.

My observation of this job is - why do people get joiners to tile their bathroom, how can a 10 day job expected to take 4 weeks and end up taking 12, and why do people get an estimate then pay almost twice as much as it's a quote!
And to top it all he paid to have a tile repaired only 2 months after it was done.
Still hopefully it will not end in tears!

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Been a bit busy to update this and indeed provide the householder with an estimate.
However he’s been asked to get prices for repairing the cracked tiles - now up to about 7 tiles on 3 different walls!
But he’s concerned that 10 months later it’s on more areas and where will it end.
I shall have to price for a complete strip out and redo - may seem excessive but it’s been badly set out, wet room floor looks like 10 years wear, and to repair all cracked tiles means taking down shower screens, damage to floor and ceiling.... it’s a nightmare.
Don’t know where Tile Giant/No more Ply will go as they are only looking to replace their tiles and boards. For me it’s fixer error along with poor installation guide.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

These are the cracks at 800mm high and small cuts everywhere.

 

[Flintstone]

No more ply doesn’t come with any sort of tape, just there glue for the joints, John.

 

[Dumbo]

When I used NMP I followed instructions by putting a bead of their tubed adhesive in every 2mm joint between boards. Once it had set I then ran a stanley blade across to remove any excess. The adhesive is like an expanding foam, although not on that scale and is actually very strong.

Sounds like pu glue

 

[GoneGuy]

Just glue and screws no tape on joints, I also trim any dried excess glue from board joints

 

[Flintstone]

You have to trim it or it pertrudes too much

 

[Perry]

Isn't it cement board? So not waterproof? Never used it but I have seen it years ago. Looked a lot like cement board to me.

 

[GoneGuy]

Isn't it cement board? So not waterproof? Never used it but I have seen it years ago. Looked a lot like cement board to me.

It’s water “resistant” so won’t go mouldy or break down

 

[Dumbo]

Why is it that a lot of you guys on here seem to prefer cement board of any make or description over the Marmox/ wedi type board.
Please don't answer because it is better .

 

[Flintstone]

Who prefers cement board ?

 

[Qwerty]

Not me

 

[GoneGuy]

Why is it that a lot of you guys on here seem to prefer cement board of any make or description over the Marmox/ wedi type board.
Please don't answer because it is better .

I’ve used wedi, shop ran out of stock and I’ve had to use no more ply for now

 

[Flintstone]

In order jackoboard online when I need it

 

[Dumbo]

On timber floors there is a lot of recommendations that involve 6mm hardi backer ( cement board if im not mistaken please feel free to enlighten )

 

[Flintstone]

6mm hardie And no more ply is very popular for floors and it’s very much aimed for that purpose imo, it does do the job well, it can add rigidity to a floor, and create a more solid feel
Under foot too. But it’s not all rosey, it’s a pig to cut, a pig to carry and it is bad for your health, it’s water resistant, not water proof. Wedi board on the other hand is a joy to cut and fit, it’s super light weight, it’s water proof, what’s not to like? Over a sturdy good timber floor it’s fine to use.

 

[Dumbo]

6mm hardie And no more ply is very popular for floors and it’s very much aimed for that purpose imo, it does do the job well, it can add rigidity to a floor, and create a more solid feel
Under foot too. But it’s not all rosey, it’s a pig to cut, a pig to carry and it is bad for your health, it’s water resistant, not water proof. Wedi board on the other hand is a joy to cut and fit, it’s super light weight, it’s water proof, what’s not to like? Over a sturdy good timber floor it’s fine to use.

Are you then suggesting hardi is better on a less stable floor and you could use it in a situation you couldn't use wedi .

 

[Blunt Tool]

Are you then suggesting hardi is better on a less stable floor and you could use it in a situation you couldn't use wedi .

Lay off poor little 6mm no more ply you big bully! Never used the stuff but I have used Hardie backer boards on floors in domestic dry areas and have never had any problems so what is your point?

 

[Flintstone]

What do you like to use @jcrtiling ?

I’ve never used hardie

 

[Dumbo]

Lay off poor little 6mm no more ply you big bully! Never used the stuff but I have used Hardie backer boards on floors in domestic dry areas and have never had any problems so what is your point?

I'm not making a point and I'm not talking specifically about nmp I'm asking about cement board in general as from what I've read there seems to be a definite preference to use this over say Wedi board on timber floors and I'm wondering why .

 

[Ttt1601]

cement board is good for over boarding floors where height is an issue, i use nmp as is it available locally and Hardie isn't, but I use cement board as 6mm is within most most manufacter recomendatio s for over boarding a chipboard floor, where as I this k it's minimum of 10mm xps board

 

[Dumbo]

What do you like to use @jcrtiling ?

I’ve never used hardie

If it is stable enough jackoboard at the moment as that is what my supplier is buying in . I could go to topps ( that only going to happen in a parallel universe ) and buy Hardi backer but as I mentioned in another post a while back I said I was really weedy and it is very heavy