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frankenfurter

I reckon redfearn ought to have done his research a little better, when the site has a large population of course tilers and sponsored by courses, it's not really the place to start drumming up business by knocking those who haven't an apprenticeship. And if they are such an impressive company why are they touting in such a cheap manner?

We don't advertise, it's all referrals and recurring contracts and it's been that way for years. Quality nothing but. You are going to get good and bad from both directions, even though my lads do an apprenticeship with us they still get to go on courses, just so they learn something that little bit differently. It's good for us when they come back with new info and want to share. Admittedly what they learn on course is your basic main stream tiling rather than restoration work but it's all good info and experience.

At the end of the day it's the individual that makes the difference, their choice entirely to excel or become dross.
 
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graham31

Natural ability is the physical appearance of tiling......It is knowledge and experiance that make a good tiler along with good hand/eye skills....

You can fix tiles all day long and make them look good but if they ain't fixed correctly or the correct prep/materials used then it isn't right.....it is just a good looking job...

Patients and knowledge of the trade is the main points to me....
This was a point i was going to make,i've not done loads and loads of jobs since coming back from my course.But i was told by a member on here, Brian, to read and understand addys,grout,and substrates and with reading this forum every night more or less,i would say i have s good understanding of the materials involved in tiling.I just need to go out and get more experience.

This subject seems to come up on the forum every now and again by new members who haven't done their research on here and they always seem to put their foot in the brown stuff.

The guys on here who have been on course want to learn more and find out the rights and wrongs of the trade.

Maybe it's the guys who go on the courses and can't be bothered finding out anymore about the different materials in tiling are the ones we need to be concerned about.

The course teaches you how to tile Yes but all the different addys,grout and substrates are not full cover in the course.I fell that it's up to the individual to find out more on these subjects since their are so many products on the market nowadays.
 
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Alberta Stone

When I was working as an apprentice it was up to me to fill my head with useful knowledge.
Sure you could ask, but the point is, did you care enough to ask.
The thing that separates the backbones from the tradesmen is the interest.
If you are interested, every bag and bucket and jug of material has a panel of useful information, plus, at the shops where you pick these items up there is always lots of free, manufacturer provided info lying about that you can read or take.
Even before the internet there was always a reps phone # or the company hotline and they would tell what they knew and send out free info as they didn't want claims coming back from unsatisfied customers.

My apprenticeship wasn't typical in that it wasn't sponsored by a school or board or whatever.
I worked with a certified tradesman, but I didn't take the courses.
I had a keen interest in learning everything I could which made for lots of conversations.
If I was to want to be a mason and construct buildings I would take a refresher course and challenge the exam so as to get certified, but that is unlikely to happen.

The point of this is that it is up to you to be all you can be.
Your customers deserve it.
 
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BDS

I did a short course 2 years ago (2 weeks) and to be honest it taught me the VERY basics but thats what they are there to do,really i could of learnt the same from a dvd ,but its not the lengh of the course or appenticeship etc etc,its what you do with it,ie;in your abilities to learn/learn/learn and carry on learning every day of your tiling career and wanting to do so,and i dont mean unleash yourself on to public straight away but build your skills walk before you can run.but give the customer what they`ve payed hard earned money for a finished job that they`re so happy and proud of that they in turn recomend you to anyone and anybody they talk too and so on and so on,and as for time served or tilers with lots of years experience,i`m called to more of those having done bad and bodged jobs than the new course people,(i mainly do bathrooms/showers) so dont do massive area`s.i did a job replacing 60m2 of tiles through 5 different rooms,(hall,kitchen,etc etc)didn`t really want to do it (really busy) but because the customer was so happy with all my other tiling and plumbing and was sick of bodge it and scarpers and believe me she had sacked a lot of guys from tilers/plasterers/plumbers and sparkys of site.the so called time served pair (father and son team) that put the origanal tiles down had made an absalute mess of her supposedly gorgeous new marble floor,i ripped it up about 3 months later and re tiled it with large trav,(she`d been put off the marble)as i`ve said i`m a newbie to the tiling industry (2 years) but i wouldn`t let these complete and utter ####### tile my garage floor let alone anything else,now these are the people that need stopping in my oppinion,doesn`t matter how long you`ve been in the industry just do the job PROPERLY, :rant: and as someone else posted previously is your 1st post/statement a master plan to drum up some new business, i find my local tradepersons book and word of mouth gives me tons of work,,,,lol
 
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