spray on adhesive

[Gazzer]

Now can we all see how we have been doing it all wrong ? :mad2:
[video=youtube;Gz02hF_4ZLI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=Gz02hF_4ZLI[/video]

 

[poynton phil]

Well there ya go, knew i was doing something wrong....

 

[bugs183]

What a fantastic product, i'll certainly use that all the time from now on, and i believe it will come into it's own on 600x300 tiles on a bumpy wall.

 

[White Room]

Better just hope the grout is a goodun to hold everything together...

 

[judge]

Bet it also tanks walls at the same time so no need to worry in shower areas....brill !

 

[DHTiling]

For showers as well.. :lol:... jeezz.. can't wait to use it.

 

[tommyzooom]

Suitable for Granite too
I've just thrown all my trowels out.

 

[Peter]

Just bought 500 tins of it for my next job. You just spray more into the dips to pack them out.

 

[prceramics]

Might of well just use prit stick just think of the re tiles we will get out of this

 

[diamondtiling]

Actually Neale that system does work for lightweight mosaics in a non wet area. We used a similar product to mount glass mosaics onto 5mm thick 100mm wide hardboard strips. These were left for 4 hours or so and they were completely stuck, you would have to use a scraper or similar to get them off.
The strips were then fixed to the walls with strong glue and grouted, never had a callback in over 10 years.
Much faster and neater than having to pack out with adhesive as the glue does that job.

We must have been doing something right as we had calls from two other tiling firms working on Fitness First contracts asking how we got the mosaics dead straight and flat.

 

[AliGage]

We must have been doing something right as we had calls from two other tiling firms working on Fitness First contracts asking how we got the mosaics dead straight and flat.

Unlike in the video. Is it me or are they all over the place??

I think i'll stick with my bagged powder. Don't think quote prices would be justified if i just sprayed a glue on. I hate products like this.

 

[Dan]

Just wait until your customers say 'right, got the spray adhesive and tiles, how much?' :lol: :lol:

 

[diamondtiling]

Unlike in the video. Is it me or are they all over the place??

I think i'll stick with my bagged powder. Don't think quote prices would be justified if i just sprayed a glue on. I hate products like this.

Have you tried or even seen a system like this?

I completely agree, its not for use with any large format tiles, even 100x100mm, stick with the powder all the time. But with small lightweight mosaics it works.
Might be best if you had the experience of trying it before its shot down in flames.

People said the same thing about pnuematic tyres, "I think I'll stick with these solid versions, I like to feel the bumps in the road"

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

good to see you back Dom !!, by the time you have masked everything -up then you could of slashed the addy -on and tiled most of it anyway!

 

[Dan]

To be fair I can't see it being a professional product ever, and even 1 sheet of mosaics, I'd get the adhesive mixed myself I think.

And you're showing your age with the tyres thing there lol - Not something I remember!

 

[NZ_Tiler]

The 1st time I watched it, i thought it was a Mapei product, because of the small tub of readymix in the vid. :shocked3:

 

[diamondtiling]

To be fair I can't see it being a professional product ever, and even 1 sheet of mosaics, I'd get the adhesive mixed myself I think.

And you're showing your age with the tyres thing there lol - Not something I remember!

No its not an age thing Dan, its just an example of how people get stuck in their ways and wont try things because its new and they have never seen it before.


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[Dan]

Have you used the spray stuff then or what? What's it like?

 

[AliGage]

Have you tried or even seen a system like this?

I completely agree, its not for use with any large format tiles, even 100x100mm, stick with the powder all the time. But with small lightweight mosaics it works.
Might be best if you had the experience of trying it before its shot down in flames.

People said the same thing about pnuematic tyres, "I think I'll stick with these solid versions, I like to feel the bumps in the road"

What i mean when i say "I hate products like this" is products that give the customer/DIYer an alternative from getting a professional in. If the aim is for us as tilers to go in, open a can and spray it over the wall then what is the point of all the training, skills and developement we have all done to get where we are today?

I don't think there is any need to develop something to replace traditional adhesive. There's nothing difficult about using adhesive. But bring something onto the market where your customer is going to watch you open a can, spray it on and stick your mosaics to it. I know what i'd be thinking if i was the customer "what the hell am i paying you for, i could do that!"

That is why i HATE products like this.

 

[Dan]

Fair comment Ali.

Hence me saying I can't see it ever being a pro product either.

In my eyes if you're doing this, you may as well use the tiles on a roll stuff that has sticky back to it and just skip the tiles all together.

 

[AliGage]

I have no issue with new and innovative products that make my life easier. But i won't support anything that takes my business away. That's just ridiculous isn't it?

 

[diamondtiling]

How could a product like this take away your business? It is an adhesive only, it won't automatically cut tiles, it won't magically lift them into place, it won't fit tiles around a socket. It won't grout and nor will it seal.
It won't come with a load of tiling tools in order to do the actual tiling and it won't silicone itself so how will it stop you from getting work?

As I said in my first post I used a similar system for SMALL GLASS MOSAICS that were 3mm thick and it worked perfectly. I wouldn't use it on a wall as the only adhesive, I only use bagged adhesive at any time. The glass mosaics in this picture are fixed in the same way, that was 8 years ago and they are still doing the job they were intended for.

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

well a fair comment Dom as i can remember tile adhesive for the first time,instead of cement fixing and guys who i was working for saying it would never catch on as it was much dearer than cement,now look more products on the market then you can shake a stick at !!lol

 

[AliGage]

Your missing my point, and the issue guys. My gripe is not with how well the product does the job etc. It's more a case of making these products targetted at the general public rather than trade specific. Why make the DIYers job easier?

 

[diamondtiling]

Your missing my point, and the issue guys. My gripe is not with how well the product does the job etc. It's more a case of making these products targetted at the general public rather than trade specific. Why make the DIYers job easier?

Because its a multi billion pound industry and people will always come up with new ideas. Everything evolves around new inventions.