Tile weight query

[Ajay]

Hi all
Daryl aka captain slow, is helping me with my wetroom but I have just come accross a problem and seeing as he is sunning it up in Egypt I don't want to pester him.

I just went to order the tiles which are 30 x 30 9mm floor/wall porcelain tiles and found out they're out of stock. They do have a 60 x 30 in stock but I was worried about the weight on the wall. When I mentioned this to them they said that they would be no different than the 30 x 30 version per sq metre, so now I'm confused. Is this the case.

One wall is plasterboard stud wall not skimmed, the other 3 are solid block walls plastered and painted.

I'm now not sure what to do as I don't want to choose new tiles as these ones are perfect.

Many thanks in advance for any help.
Andy

 

[Alan.P]

Hi Andy, same weight per meter square, if they are the same thickness, actually a little less weight as you'll be one grout joint less, you are using a bagged adhesive, aren't you ?

 

[Ajay]

Hi Alan

Thanks for reply

Regarding the adhesive i'm guessing captain slow would use the appropriate one, as i'm not actually doing the tiling.

I'm just starting to get paranoid as i'v heard they can pull the plaster off if there too heavy.

The tiles are from the tile & stone gallery and they sell them as floor/wall tiles as long as the substrate is suitable.

Andy

 

[grumpygrouter]

Plaster and skim will safely take 20kg/m2 plasterboard 32kg, including adhesive and grout. Daryl wouldn't fix them if they are too heavy. To satisfy yourself, weigh a tile and calculate how heavy a square metre will be. Add about 4kg for adhesive and grout.

 

[Alan.P]

Sorry Andy, I miss read your post so thought Daryl was just giving pointers and that you were doing the fixing, he knows the score, I've worked with him / for him on a contract, nice fella. Daryl will have done his math on this so don't panic, if you want piece of mind, do as Grumpy says and weigh the tiles.

Sorry for getting the wrong end of the stick.

 

[doug boardley]

is Daryl out at Garys place? courtesy of Job of the Month?

 

[Ajay]

Hi grumpy G

Thanks, i'm sure daryl wouldn't but i told him they were the 30x30 tiles, but as i've now found out the size doesn't matter in relation to weight per sq mt.

As you say probably best to weigh one and work it out except they don't keep them in store.
Perhaps i'll ask if they can find out for me

Thanks again

Andy

 

[Alan.P]

is Daryl out at Garys place? courtesy of Job of the Month?

LOL, No Doug, Village got that prize

 

[djr tiling]

been looking in to the weights on different walls and cant find the weights on a plastered plasterboard wall and with plasterboard does it make a difference weather its dot and dabed on to a concrete block wall or mechanicly fixed on to steel/wood studs ?????

 

[White Room]

Tiles and Adhesive Weight Per Square Metre - THE TILE SOURCE

 

[djr tiling]

but it still doesnt state difference on mechanical fixings dot and dab !!

also the marmox board doesnt say how it has to be fixed to get the stated strength

 

[DHTiling]

Just ring daz on holiday..he will really appreciate it...:smilewinkgrin:

 

[Ajay]

Hi

Well i asked the tile suppliers about the weight per sq mt and they said 30ish, although i think that was an educated guess as they didn't go off to check.
So 10kg per sq mt over the recommended.

So other than choosing different tiles, what would my options be with these tiles.

Many thanks
Andy

 

[DHTiling]

I would read this first.....

Tiles and Adhesive Weight Per Square Metre - THE TILE SOURCE

 

[doug boardley]

so at 30ish they're gonna be pushing it for unskimmed plasterboard too, taking into account adhesive weight. It's looking like a backer type board will be your best option

 

[Ajay]

Hi

Sorry to be still going on about this.

i've found some other tiles i like and managed to get a sample, so i weighed it when i got home.

It's another porcelain 60x30 and weighs in at 3.5kg, so if my maths is correct that's 5.5 tiles per sq mt so comes in at 19ish kg per sq mt plus the adhesive/grout, i know it should be ok for the unskimmed plasterboard wall, but would it be over doing it for the plastered walls.considering the recommended is 20kg with the adhesive/grout

Also what's the general opinion on large format tiles in a small room, would they look odd seeing as there would only be a few in whole.

Thanks
Andy

 

[grumpygrouter]

It will exceed the safe recommended wieght limit for plaster or skimmed walls. As for large fromat in small rooms, it would be a personal thing.

 

[brian c]

personally,i think you should just wait for Daryl to get home and he WILL sort it out for you as its his job and he is a pro,this will save you twoing and frowing and conflicted reports on weight ratios etc from different sources..the he said she said but if you did this scenario.I know if it was me i would rather my customer came to me for advice.JUST MY OPINION.