Tiling a bathroom ceiling

[chubbywayne44]

Hi this is my first post and i was hoping someone out there could help with advice.
i am considering tiling my bathroom ceiling which is only 4 square meter. i am a joiner by trade so the problem doesnt lie there.
what i need advice on is
has any body done this before did you use plywood, plaster board,???
what adhesive what grout
what were your results.
Basically can it be done so they dont fall off:yikes:.
if so please could you give advice to a struggling chippie
thank you all
wayne

 

[chubbywayne44]

why not just use the plastic clading batoned to the cieling I did mine and it looks good and is easy enough to do, I used plain white but I think it comes in many colours and even marble look just a thought.

I know what you mean ive done that before on other jobs i like it
but the wife would like it tiled.
so one must be seen to try you know what i mean
cheers

 

[tfs]

The way you mention is not one I have come across before mate. Mechanicaly fixing is normally associated with larger, thicker tiles and is done with special clips.

I wouldnt use ply on the ceiling either mate it will be to unstable. The ceiling in my opinion will more than likely have more deflection than I would be happy with at this time. Some modern properties have only 2x4 joists on the ceiling which realy isnt ideal if it is ever walked on as this bend etc with any load. This is why I would fix new frame below existing ceiling. If you didnt want to build new ceiling, you could perhaps fix braces from existing ceiling to the common rafters this would help eliminate the chances of deflection in existing ceiling. (dont know what a structural engineer would think of that though)

 

[tfs]

Here is a cracking example of an arched ceiling done by Phil Hobson with small stone tiles
Picture 2 of 14 from arch

 

[Aston]

yes tiling a ceiling is possible.

1. simply treat the ceiling as if it were a floor but use mechanical fixings on the tiles!!
2. ensure the ceiling joists are free from deflection..this can be a bit of a task / headache because the ceiling joists into the ceiling space are not as thick compared to your 1st floor joists! the problem will arise more when your plodding around in the loft! if you have a loft conversion then this will have a supended floor which will help.
3. add extra strength by using 25mm wbp ply to the ceiling. again, ply adds strength, backerboards have different properties.
4. overlay with a suitable backer board for a stable surface.
5. use a flexable adhesive combined with mechanical fixings
6 as jay with exoxy grout
7 . good extractor fan!! and plenty of ventilation when possible

 

[chubbywayne44]

yes tiling a ceiling is possible.

1. simply treat the ceiling as if it were a floor but use mechanical fixings on the tiles!!
2. ensure the ceiling joists are free from deflection..this can be a bit of a task / headache because the ceiling joists into the ceiling space are not as thick compared to your 1st floor joists! the problem will arise more when your plodding around in the loft! if you have a loft conversion then this will have a supended floor which will help.
3. add extra strength by using 25mm wbp ply to the ceiling. again, ply adds strength, backerboards have different properties.
4. overlay with a suitable backer board for a stable surface.
5. use a flexable adhesive combined with mechanical fixings
6 as jay with exoxy grout
7 . good extractor fan!! and plenty of ventilation when possible

i should have said i am putting in a false ceiling using 4 x 2 the area is only 4 sq mt aprox 6' x 6' so to elimanate any vibration i wont put any hangers in

 

[tfs]

yes tiling a ceiling is possible.

1. simply treat the ceiling as if it were a floor but use mechanical fixings on the tiles!!
2. ensure the ceiling joists are free from deflection..this can be a bit of a task / headache because the ceiling joists into the ceiling space are not as thick compared to your 1st floor joists! the problem will arise more when your plodding around in the loft! if you have a loft conversion then this will have a supended floor which will help.
3. add extra strength by using 25mm wbp ply to the ceiling. again, ply adds strength, backerboards have different properties.
4. overlay with a suitable backer board for a stable surface.
5. use a flexable adhesive combined with mechanical fixings
6 as jay with exoxy grout
7 . good extractor fan!! and plenty of ventilation when possible

How would you go about mechanicaly fixing those tiles mate?

 

[Aston]

at that thickness it would have to be a epoxy/resin to the rear of the tiles to adhere the fixing as chubbywayne suggested. upgrading the adhesive to an epoxy based/ swimming pool adhesive would also be a reinforcment. (belt and braces)
the fact that there will be no deflecton or weight on the new suspended ceiling will be a big plus too.

 

[Scott]

And when you have tiled the ceiling are you going to artex the floor?

 

[White Room]

Might be worth putting some insulation above the ceiling to avoid cold areas

 

[Bolter]

And when you have tiled the ceiling are you going to artex the floor?

Bet she wants carpet

 

[Thespanishtiler]

if you tile a cieling it is recomended that all tiles are epoxy wired at five points through the cieling subtrate back to a screwed anchor point, ie a joist.

it makes it a 2 man job.

obviously this is a pain to do but gives you the fail safe position should your bond fail.

 

[vosnack]

Maybe tile with mosaic? Make it waterproof (proper grout) and i don't see it coming down. But I have to leave it to more experienced experts on the subject, so just a thought.

 

[cjones]

would personally avoid at all costs but can be done....

ive done one of these before (well helped scottish greg from london tiling,tile genius might i add)..... the ceiling was plyed out ready for us and we attached big sand stone tiles to the ceiling using plenty of ardex adhesive. And drilled into the tile and mechanically fixed brackets on them using a 2 part liquid metal solution.

End result a lovely ceiling but i wouldnt wanna have a shower in there with literally tonnes of stone above your head.....

i might add that this method is painfully slow and a 2 man job.

Good luck

 

[tile55]

And when you have tiled the ceiling are you going to artex the floor?

Well done mate, cheered me up. lol

 

[The D]

all i can say on the subject is :yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes::yikes:

 

[jindru]

i tiled an angled ceiling once under a stairway.yes another crazy woman.it was a nightmare tiles falling, sliding, spacer lines all over the place.timber supports till cement cures, not a job to be looked foward to .best of luck i woulnt do it again even tho tiles have so far stayed put.

 

[TilerJames]

it can be done, but what a time consuming pain in the ....you would have it painted in the time it takes just to get the tools outa da van!!

 

[Scott the tiler]

Put this on one side of bedroom wall

And this in the lounge