Tiling Apprenticeships - Who's Currently Got An Apprentice?

[Dan]

Do any of you guys have an apprentice? I see threads quite often where established tilers discourage tiling courses that are not involved in apprenticeships, and even sometimes knock the NVQ system. So wondering if any of those guys, or other tilers, have taken on apprentices or considered taking on any at any point in time.

 

[J Sid]

Have tried before, but sadly trying to find someone who is happy to get up in the morning and do a days work is dam near impossible .

 

[Dan]

What area are you in?

I know a dozen around here who would be willing to be a tilers apprentice.

I'm not sure of the financial benefits for a business but at some point you got tax relief or something. If not a grant to help or something.

 

[cam_low]

£1500 grant. iirc

i cant even get my mate who works for me now and again buzzed about tiling. thinks its boring and hes a decorator !!!

 

[Dan]

Christ, what's going on in the world?

What about the guys who are doing courses? I wonder if they ever enquire about and consider apprenticeships?

 

[Ian]

Tried 3, no one seems to want to work these days. A plumber mate of mine has had an apprentice for 18 months now and he reckons it's one of the worst things he's ever done, to be fair the lad is an absolute clown and just doesn't seem to want to learn, he's had so many chances but, seems hell bent on tossing away a great opportunity

 

[cam_low]

Tilers are rare down here (bathroom bashers), if the builders cant get one or wont pay the going rate, you guessed it, they do it themselves which leads to you know what !

 

[White Room]

I thought shortly that any employer will need to contribute to a pension even if theres only employed person....

 

[J Sid]

I think most youngsters are happy to get a girl pregnant, get a free home with beer and *** money, sky telly with a 50" screen, and if they are really ambitious they will knock out another couple of kids and get money for a car and holidays.
Why would they want to work?

 

[gamma38]

None of the kids nowadays want to do a hard days work, Facebook, twitter, internet has turned people into zombies. They all want to earn six figure salaries through the internet and anything else is put into the too hard pile.

 

[Lindsay]

I'm looking at apprenticeships but not sure of the bonus points for the company are. I'd like to find out so I can try persuade them to take me on as I'm over 25 I think the grants don't apply.

 

[MPM]

Hi all,
I did my NVQ level 2 at collage they did not offer level 3 at that time. In my year out of 15 students only 2 in my opinion had the potential for a tiling career, what does that say about the future?

 

[stone tiler]

I keep thinking about taking a kid on (got a kid begging at the mo. nice lad, works hard and can be trusted apparently as he works for a mate day to day labouring) but if I'm honest I'm wondering how it would benefit me. Can't seem to find any info on grants etc so is it just the extra pair of hands I'll get out of it? And what should you be paying an apprentice?
It concerns me that I could be training someone up, funding their mistakes and learning, giving them your time/secrets and tips and after all that a couple of years down the line they leave and become your competition!

 

[Simon benn Leeds]

I keep thinking about taking a kid on (got a kid begging at the mo. nice lad, works hard and can be trusted apparently as he works for a mate day to day labouring) but if I'm honest I'm wondering how it would benefit me. Can't seem to find any info on grants etc so is it just the extra pair of hands I'll get out of it? And what should you be paying an apprentice?
It concerns me that I could be training someone up, funding their mistakes and learning, giving them your time/secrets and tips and after all that a couple of years down the line they leave and become your competition!

It's happened to me a few times, train them up put your time effort and money into them all of a sudden there tilers!..
Won't do it again no loyalty from these youngens now, I'll just take lads on as labourers now and only teach them cutting and grouting. What's the point.
Think it's the same in most trades tbh, train them up look after them and see you later!!..

 

[SCCB]

Hi there my name is Carl Goulden, I'm a lecturer at South and City College Birmingham, at the moment we have 15 apprentices this year and the number is growing. Some of the threads are true in that to get a good hard working apprentice that wants to learn the trade is hard but they are out there ( I know because we have lots here).
I would urge you to ring our team to discus or they will in some cases come out to you, and I think its a lot more for the funding for an apprentice if he/she is 16-24 years old.
ring
0121 694 5066

or copy and paste this
Apprenticeships Matching Team | South & City College Birmingham

 

[SCCB]

I stand corrected, I have just spoken to Tracy Kerr who is out go to guru for apprenticeships.
the total funding for the full frame work is up to £12,000 for 1 apprentice.

Here is some of the criteria.

Apprentice needs to be 16-24
You need to employ less than 50 employees
they need to complete all the frame work..
£12.000 wow........

If your thinking of apprentices then call Tracy on 07787004710 we have had apprentices from as far as Bristol.

 

[Andy Allen]

Wow.......Some of you lot haven't got teenage kids then.
And don't really think you should be taring them all with the same brush.
From my understanding an apprentice gets £2.50 an hour and under 18 get minimum wage of £3:60 an hour hardly a fortune.....my daughter at college full time learning hairdressing. ...her spare time and weekends are spent working in shops for for that poltry £3:60 an hour ...slave labour Imo. ...should at least be the propper min wage of nearly £7 .......No wonder the kids get disheartened. .

 

[bcd-87]

Hi All

It's tough going with a apprentice/labourer/scumer...
what ever we call them...

Iv had a guy 3 days a week for about a year and it's not worked out as well as I'd hoped.. He done college passed and I quote " I would never have passed if I hadent worked for you " I took that as a thank you as that's all he said !! He's lost a lot of his enthusiasm and drive recently as he's been experiencing the really world, going out meeting the general public and pricing jobs and not getting them... He's 31 and got kids I thought I would be liveing all the crap behind with the 17,18,18 yrs old but it's just different kind of BS. Sorry to be a Debbie downer on a Friday

Peace and love

 

[bcd-87]

£1500 grant. iirc

i cant even get my mate who works for me now and again buzzed about tiling. thinks its boring and hes a decorator !!!

Lol... Beacause painting is so exciting.. My dads a painter he's the boreingest Man I know

 

[bcd-87]

I keep thinking about taking a kid on (got a kid begging at the mo. nice lad, works hard and can be trusted apparently as he works for a mate day to day labouring) but if I'm honest I'm wondering how it would benefit me. Can't seem to find any info on grants etc so is it just the extra pair of hands I'll get out of it? And what should you be paying an apprentice?
It concerns me that I could be training someone up, funding their mistakes and learning, giving them your time/secrets and tips and after all that a couple of years down the line they leave and become your competition!

Sort of the situation I find myself in or potentionaly could find myself in..

 

[AWOL]

I’m from Poole Dorset work for housing association have done lots of kitchen tiling a lot of metro/mosaic quite a few bathrooms mid size tiles a couple of concrete floors 90% of the time the walls are to bare brick or walls are all over the place but always get over it nice and flat to a good standard ...done lots of private work and put right work they had done and get lots of calls to do floor tiling on wooden floors but not ever used matting or done under floor heating and also have been asked to do wet/shower rooms but never tanked out a room or used large format tiles ....what I’m trying to say is I love tiling having a challenge want to do more earn more get into all aspects of tiling I’m a bloody good hard working who has been used for the last 13 years to do all the crap and put right others lazy sods mistakes I’m 48 and anyone wiling to take me on to learn all aspects of tiling and to earn some good money and a good career I’m here if not just tag along when I can free of charge to learn a bit more to get out on my own thanx sorry to bore you ....

 

[Italy]

here in Italy, maximum 10/15 years
and all the tilers will be foreigners.

 

[judge]

I've just taken on my 18 yr old boy around four months ago.unfortunately in wales there is no college courses he can go on.I'm quite shocked at how he is coming on.he's keen,enthusiastic and seems to enjoy grouting ??? In around two years he will be joining the navy and sailing the seven seas,but at least he will have some experience of the real world beforehand.