Tiling on bonding..

[celt]

I can not understand the comparison here.... Bonding works, and plasterboard adhesive works.... Why therefore is plasteboard adhesive better?? They both work...

YEs but when taking them off, one is more difficult. If i where doing the job, i would just use bonding unless someone already bought the board adhesive.

 

[beanz]

Theres that PVA word again.

where!?!

 

[Andy Tiler]

Agree that plasterbord adhesive is better but you can get away with using bonding.

I don't get that plasterboard adhesive is better!but you would carry on using bonding ???

 

[Plumbing Tiler]

I don't get that plasterboard adhesive is better!but you would carry on using bonding ??? 

Bonding is cheaper I'm guessing???.......

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

bonding is a soft plaster undercoat draws water in like a sponge porc adhesive is cement based so when you stick to bonding you have a weak holding substrate .now when you fix porcs to this with a cement based adhesive you are putting tougher a weak holding surface any movement and it will fail if the water gets under the silcone it will draw it in like a sponge you may get away with light ceramic tiles but heavy porcs the bonding wont hold the weight

 

[Andy Tiler]

Bonding is cheaper I'm guessing???.......

Cheaps no good I'd rather do it properly!!

 

[celt]

Cheaps no good I'd rather do it properly!!


It is getting done properly! Its what plasterers have been doing for years. Its like driving out to the shops , one is driving in a ford forcus and another is driving a top of the range BMW. Theyll both do the same job but some would prefer to go with the better one

I have yet to see a bond used with bonding fail.

 

[Andy Tiler]

It is getting done properly! Its what plasterers have been doing for years. Its like driving out to the shops , one is driving in a ford forcus and another is driving a top of the range BMW. Theyll both do the same job but some would prefer to go with the better one

I have yet to see a bond used with bonding fail.

Would British gypsum recommend it??
Using bonding for dot n dabbing boards!!

 

[widler]

I recon if you can bond over plasterboard andy, which you can, and if you can use bonding on most substrates which you can, you can dryline with it, which you can

 

[Andy Allen]

why would they bring out a dry wall adhesive then..?

 

[Andy Tiler]

This is going to get interesting?
But I wouldn't listen to a plasterer! I would phone British gypsum and ask there advise on there products not from people who think it works!!

 

[widler]

Honestly its like being in pre school
" why why why why why why "

 

[Andy Tiler]

Honestly its like being in pre school
" why why why why why why "

 

[Andy Allen]

This is going to get interesting?
But I wouldn't listen to a plasterer! I would phone British gypsum and ask there advise on there products not from people who think it works!! 

so true, ive lost count of the amount of times ive argued with a plasterer who thinks tiling over bonding is alright to do....'just pva it and it will be fine'....:mad2: I gave up listening to them years ago....lol

 

[Andy Tiler]

so true, ive lost count of the amount of times ive argued with a plasterer who thinks tiling over bonding is alright to do....'just pva it and it will be fine'....:mad2: I gave up listening to them years ago....lol

Let em try coming in here saying that!!!

 

[widler]

so true, ive lost count of the amount of times ive argued with a plasterer who thinks tiling over bonding is alright to do....'just pva it and it will be fine'....:mad2: I gave up listening to them years ago....lol

Nah i wouldnt pva it, tile straight onto it with wicks own ready mix !

 

[celt]

I know a guy who tiled 2 bathroom slopes in a dormer which where bonded. this was 12 years ago and they are still hanging. ~Not one has came loose

 

[beanz]

I've known bonding to fail in a dot n dab situation. Whether that was down to time (the wall had been up a good 25-30 years), or not PVAing the block work properly beforehand I couldn't tell you...!?! As for listening to manufacturers over tradesmen, it's a tough call.. The manufacturers have a newer, slightly more expensive, product to sell... And tradesmen can be stuck in their ways...

 

[widler]

Look folks, please look at british gypsum, it ideal for 'plasterboard'
So if it sticks to plasterboard AND sticks to wall its good enough for drylining.
And beanz of coarse you have seen it fail, ive also seen drywall fail, browning, limemotar,s/c.
Same as tiling , everyone on here has seen things fail in tiling what should work.
Now im out, on the beer now
Laters

 

[beanz]

Look folks, please look at british gypsum, it ideal for 'plasterboard'
So if it sticks to plasterboard AND sticks to wall its good enough for drylining.
And beanz of coarse you have seen it fail, ive also seen drywall fail, browning, limemotar,s/c.
Same as tiling , everyone on here has seen things fail in tiling what should work.
Now im out, on the beer now
Laters

I'm not disputing that mate.. My point was that you can't believe everything you read, as there are often ulterior motives behind what someone is saying. I tend to believe my own eyes, in most cases..