Tiling onto angled part where wall meets ceiling

[Little5]

Hi

Im doing a job with 60x30 tiles and as the ceiling slopes at a part i will need to tile up to the flat ceiling.

I normally use Mapei addy, which should hold😳 but is there any advice anyone wants to offer on how to do it.
Also as it will meet the ceiling not at normal 90 degrees, is there any advice on how to edge it, would trim look ok???

 

[brian c]

reverse the tile and put your wet cutter on the 45 degree and take the back off the tile.I would use a rapid set adhesive such as mapei kerraquick as you havent said if the tiles are porcelain or not and you havent told us the substrate which needs to be considered for weight issues also i would use a powdered adhesive for tiles that size anyway...dont use tubbed gear as it will take ages to dry if at all.

 

[Wylie]

I cut a mitre on the back of the tile where the wall meets the ceiling slope just to keep the joint neat don't no if that helps you

 

[brian c]

I cut a mitre on the back of the tile where the wall meets the ceiling slope just to keep the joint neat don't no if that helps you

thats what i said..lol

 

[Sean fsy]

not a very good pic but same kind of problem, having to mitre the back of tile:

also these days the tiles are to thick to sit on a shower tray (with the rear lip)and they stick over the edge so you have to mitre the back away also to let the tile sit back so it does not protrude over the edge.

 

[Wylie]

thats what i said..lol

You beat me to it:smilewinkgrin:

 

[brian c]

yes Wylie we must have posted at the same time m8

 

[Wylie]

Your job looks well

 

[Jelthetiler]

I don't use anything else but kerraflex nowadays (as has been already said a few posts up). Anyhow, my tip for angled wall/ceiling to flat ceiling is to PVA said angled area, then apply the thinnest coat of adhesive. When dry this will give immense grip when tiling, as no-one wants a 60x30 landing on their toes!

Taking the back edge off the tile is also the proper way but for safety's sake only use a machine with capabilities for cutting angles. I recently got to finish a job after the original tiler tried to cut angles moving the tile and not the machine. It got caught in the blade and chucked the tile up under his chin!

Jel

 

[Spud]

not a very good pic but same kind of problem, having to mitre the back of tile:

also these days the tiles are to thick to sit on a shower tray (with the rear lip)and they stick over the edge so you have to mitre the back away also to let the tile sit back so it does not protrude over the edge.

nice work sean

 

[Spud]

I don't use anything else but kerraflex nowadays (as has been already said a few posts up). Anyhow, my tip for angled wall/ceiling to flat ceiling is to PVA said angled area, then apply the thinnest coat of adhesive. When dry this will give immense grip when tiling, as no-one wants a 60x30 landing on their toes!

Taking the back edge off the tile is also the proper way but for safety's sake only use a machine with capabilities for cutting angles. I recently got to finish a job after the original tiler tried to cut angles moving the tile and not the machine. It got caught in the blade and chucked the tile up under his chin!

Jel

I am guessing you mean prime the area rather than pva

 

[Jelthetiler]

I am guessing you mean prime the area rather than pva

Hi Gary, i did mean PVA the area if it was bare plaster. Always have done, probably always will unless told/advised differently. Never had a tile come off a 'more than verticle' surface.
Thanks for the comment in my photo's.

Cheers, Jel

 

[brian c]

Jelthetiler,have a read at this as it might change your views.http://www.tilersforums.com/tile-ad...rsus-primers.html?highlight=pva+versus+primer

 

[borgie]

i thought nobody still uses pva?

 

[Spud]

i thought nobody still uses pva?

there are still adhesive manufacturers that specify using it, so there will still be a lot of tilers that still unwittingly use it

 

[mikethetile]

ive used the suction method to stick tiles to soffits

back butter just the edge but make it continuous spread and notch the ceiling and then push the tile on pushing the air out

it works with 150mm biscuits

i havent tried it with anything heavier

i use support in window soffits with heavier tiles

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

i thought nobody still uses pva?

Me too, would never risk it. Lost a job recently, customer had pva caked on
bathroom walls inc walk in shower, I told him to wire brush, to remove pva.

Never heard fom him again, obviously he got someone to go on top. Glad I refused, they were 600x300 porcelain:yikes:

 

[Rich]

I wouldnt put trim along the top of the tiles as the ceiling is bound to not be flat and true, trim will make this stand out like a saw thumb. Just cut your tiles as neatly and closely to the ceiling as poss, as said above, it will help to take the back edge off of the tiles.

 

[Jelthetiler]

Re: Tiling onto angled part where wall meets ceiling/PVA

Cheers fellas, but i'm not into wacking loads on, just watered down pee really, but everyone to their own!!

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

I dont want to be a scare mongerer, but PVA as far as I know was outlawed years ago. SBR is the way to go. Another thing to bare in mind is that each adhesive has its own unique primer. They should'nt be mixed. With large format tiles, you have a duty of care to research the correct material for each project. I would not like to be sued for one of my 600x300 travertine tiles killing someone.

 

[Sean fsy]

thought this thread was about angled ceilings and walls:speechless:

 

[aflemi]

"If you ever meet Paul Weller, bow down/curtsy, for greatness is in front of you"


Actually, I did meet Paul Weller last month, he was sat the seat behind me on an easyjet flight, I couldn't sleep for the noise of him snogging his mid 20's bird/wife the whole bleedin flight..............:lol:

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

thought this thread was about angled ceilings and walls:speechless:

It was, but if we can guide members away from bad code of practice. surely its not a bad thing. I might be an old timer who started off fixing in sand and cement. Using a scriber for walls, and pin hammer/ tungsten chisel for floors. But I like to keep up to date on all new technology and good code of practice. I just wish every tiler did.

 

[Sean fsy]

start a new job tomorrow with angles all over the place, will take pics when doing to show the work.

 

[DHTiling]

Re: Tiling onto angled part where wall meets ceiling/PVA

Cheers fellas, but i'm not into wacking loads on, just watered down pee really, but everyone to their own!!

PVA does not stop Ettringite failure when using cement based adhesives...So it is not case of everyone to their own on here...it is advising correct prep and methods..

PVA has no place in the tiling trade.

 

[Sean fsy]

 

[diamondtiling]

Excellent work there.

 

[Sean fsy]

love doing abnormal jobs, greater sense of satisfaction and pride when its all done and complete.

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Nice work mate

 

[Little5]

Sean fsy
I assume you have a variable andle cutter.
If not how did you do it as it looks bigger than a 45 egree angle

 

[Sean fsy]

the angles dont need to be perfect just as long as you take sufficient material off the back of the tile. i just run the tile through the wet cutter by hand, you get used to it and basically you can get what ever angle you want by eye.