Tiling outdoors advice

[Balloo]

Guys any advice on material and preparation for tiling 50mt patio .
As you all know frost and the usual British isles weather can create major problems with porcelain.
Has anyone used bal rapid mat for decoupling, I've a load ofit left over from previous job is it any good for outdoors , or even needed

 

[GoneGuy]

Guys any advice on material and preparation for tiling 50mt patio .
As you all know frost and the usual British isles weather can create major problems with porcelain.
Has anyone used bal rapid mat for decoupling, I've a load ofit left over from previous job is it any good for outdoors , or even needed

@Schlüter-Systems Ltd do ditra drain for outdoors

 

[LM]

BAL rapid mat is not suitable for outdoors. As above Ditra Drain etc is perfect for draining water away and protecting the floor in frost.

 

[Balloo]

Thanks guys , expensive gear was hoping for cheaper alternative

 

[LM]

Try Dural

 

[One Day]

Try Dural

Or stick with proper drainage solutions which will make sure your tiling lasts more than 12 months.

Expensive you say?! Try the expense of re-doing it all after scrimping on a drainage layer...

Here's one done just over 12 months ago...

 

[Spare Tool]

Or stick with proper drainage solutions which will make sure your tiling lasts more than 12 months.

Expensive you say?! Try the expense of re-doing it all after scrimping on a drainage layer...

Here's one done just over 12 months ago...
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Think you might need to look a bit further than the Ci mat Mark...you'll be surprised at what you might find

 

[Balloo]

Or stick with proper drainage solutions which will make sure your tiling lasts more than 12 months.

Expensive you say?! Try the expense of re-doing it all after scrimping on a drainage layer...

Here's one done just over 12 months ago...
View attachment 98499

Looks more like 12years

 

[Balloo]

I watched a video on YouTube for the installation of ditra drain and they didn't waterproof the balcony before putting ditra drain down is it's a necessary and if so would an ordinary tanking kit work

 

[Dumbo]

Why would you want to waterproof .
The ditra drain is designed for water under the tiles to run away .

 

[Balloo]

It says that you need to put waterproof membrane under the drain matt on the website

 

[GoneGuy]

It says that you need to put waterproof membrane under the drain matt on the website

Send a message to @Schlüter-Systems Ltd on the forum and there technical department can send you relevant info you need

 

[Balloo]

Thanks

 

[Porcelainwood]

Seems like a good product
https://www.benfer.it/en/cms/Utility.action?schedaTecnica=&jm=Prodotto.213

 

[One Day]

Schluter systems don't include waterproofing any terrace or balcony in the UK. It's down to the extremes of weather or something.
When I have used different systems from them, each time I have had to get the builder to ensure everything is already waterproof and then the Schluter gear is there to uncouple and manage the water / drainage.
You could waterproof using Kerdi membrane.
If I am wrong on this, then by all means @Schlüter-Systems Ltd please correct me!