unfair dismisal laws

[nybor62]

Britain’s “terrible” employment laws are undermining economic growth and should be overhauled, according to the confidential report obtained by The Daily Telegraph (Published below).

It says that British workers should be banned from claiming unfair dismissal so that firms and public sector bodies can find more capable replacements.

Under current regulations, workers are allowed to “coast along” and employers are left fearful of expanding because new staff may prove “unknown quantities” who are impossible to sack, the report says.

The radical recommendation to scrap the concept of unfair dismissal is made by Adrian Beecroft, a venture capitalist, in a report commissioned by David Cameron.

The report is understood to have the support of both the Chancellor and Downing St, although the proposals are likely to meet with strong opposition from some Liberal Democrats and trade unions.

just wondering what your take on this matter is

 

[Andy Allen]

i remember reading in the news paper about a chip shop worker, she had worked in the chip shop for 10 years untill it was sold to a new owner who was turkish, after a few months he sack her stating she was a 'bad employee' he than hired cheaper foreign workers, who were working for half the amount she was earning, she took him to an industrail tribunal, and won £6,000 a sum he says he will never pay.

so what do thay hope to gain ?.....more capable replacements, or cheaper replacements........now theres a thought..

 

[Mike]

i remember reading in the news paper about a chip shop worker, she had worked in the chip shop for 10 years untill it was sold to a new owner who was turkish, after a few months he sack her stating she was a 'bad employee' he than hired cheaper foreign workers, who were working for half the amount she was earning, she took him to an industrail tribunal, and won £6,000 a sum he says he will never pay.

so what do thay hope to gain ?.....more capable replacements, or cheaper replacements........now theres a thought..

both probably. there will always be both employers and employees who will bend the rules or take advantage of them

 

[Perry]

Yes my lad works for a uni they have staff that cant even do the basics they keep getting moved to different departments (dumped on someone else) because they cant sack them without a lot of problems and we are all paying for that where when they start for me being self employed if you cant do it you go

 

[nybor62]

surly they new they were,nt up to the job before they employed them, why not have a probation period for a few months if your not up to it then you go

 

[Stewart]

IMO the law's need to be changed as the employers hands are tied far too much. No matter what the law's are though, you'll always get peeps abusing the system on both sides......


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[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

probation period should be for 18 months then you get full rights biggest problem is minimum wage .should be scapped say you are a minimum person most heard sentence in job centre i am not working for minimum wage you have to start some where and prove your self to get better wages :mad2:

 

[Deleted member 9966]

Employers in Britain have failed to grasp one fundamental management tool - Performance Management. Managers are too lazy and pretend to not have the time to fully manage their staff, and so have no control over their performance. It has nothing to do with unfair dismissal laws. Managers just need to be trained properly to understand how a person is performing compared to the job description and the requirements of the job they are doing. It's not rocket science.

And Rob is correct, companies/organisations should not be employing people who are not capable and willing to do the job in the first place. However, you won't fully know how a person is performing in the job until they are actually there doing it. A face to face interview tells you nothing. You then have to apply loads of other things as part of your recruitment and selection processes such as personality profiling, team working exercises, job related exercises such as using computers, as well as getting and reading references from previous employers. Your new recruit is only as good as the recruitment processes you use to find them.

Regardless of job role in my company, every candidate goes through an assessment centre. Team exercises, individual exercises, role plays, tour of the factory with senior managers. We use about 8 different people to get good views from right round the business and we listen carefully to feedback. So an individual may talk the talk in an interview, but in a hands-on workshop test for example, they may be rubbish. Now we have decide if that's the kind of person we want to employ.

I could harp on about this for hours, but it is my job and it's what I do on a daily basis. The self employed are lucky because they report to themselves and can only blame themselves for poor performance.

 

[nybor62]

i have just sacked myself

 

[Perry]

i have just sacked myself

Saves me doing it :lol:

 

[hillhead]

I'll sack myself when my six numbers come up.
No harm in dreaming.