Waterproofing - Is it required all the time?

[jay]

waterproofing whats your view on this
waste of time
needed
to expencive
not needed
just a general question just interested in your views on it

thanks

jay

placed it in tiling forum for general opinion

 

[DHTiling]

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IMO..100% needed and should be enforced.. through BS5385..

 

[chrisroe]

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if you dont have it i dont tile it

 

[mikethetile]

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it should be a given

 

[Stewart]

Been years since I tiled a shower without it........

 

[Daz]

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IMO, every situation has to be assessed.
I recently tiled the en-suite and bathroom for a retired couple. He prefers to shower, she prefers to bathe. I discussed tanking but I could not really justify it to them.

Conversely, I tiled a shower room for a family of five, who all prefer to shower so I insisted on tanking or I wouldn't tile it.

And a third scenario, I will be tiling a wetroom for a couple next week but the builder (for some bizarre reason) has formed the shower walls with ply. I, again, insisted that it had to be tanked prior to tiling.

I think tanking has it's place. In situations where it is obviously required, it is easy to justify the on-costs. It's the 50/50 situations which become harder to justify.

 

[DHTiling]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

IMO, every situation has to be assessed.
I recently tiled the en-suite and bathroom for a retired couple. He prefers to shower, she prefers to bathe. I discussed tanking but I could not really justify it to them.

Conversely, I tiled a shower room for a family of five, who all prefer to shower so I insisted on tanking or I wouldn't tile it.

And a third scenario, I will be tiling a wetroom for a couple next week but the builder (for some bizarre reason) has formed the shower walls with ply. I, again, insisted that it had to be tanked prior to tiling.

I think tanking has it's place. In situations where it is obviously required, it is easy to justify the on-costs. It's the 50/50 situations which become harder to justify.

BUT.. IYO should it be made law..?

 

[jay]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

it should be a given

Dont understand

 

[Daz]

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BUT.. IYO should it be made law..?

One word..........YES!

BUT.....could it be enforced? You would have to get a buildings inspector out prior to commencing tiling. Not gonna happen IMO.

 

[DHTiling]

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BUT. and i mean BUT if it was made LAW then it will be enforced as you will have to register every installation.. Tilers version of gas safe.

 

[jay]

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Or like down here you sighn off on waterproofing stating what was used and must be sighned before occupancy certificate is issued

 

[badger]

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shower area should always be tanked imho

 

[mikethetile]

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sorry Jay

it means it should just happen as a matter of course , there should be no debate about it or selling it to the client, every area that is intermittant wet should be tanked to protect the substrate against water ingress

as Dave rightly says it should be a part of bs and be the minimum standard for tiling and anyone not waterproofing an installation should be liable to prosecution for endangering the householders property. it sounds draconian but if you entered someones home and damaged it you would be liable to be prosecuted fpr criminal damage

 

[Daz]

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There are loads of individuals that are having boilers, ovens etc installed by non Gas Safe engineers (I am in the process of purchasing a buy-to-let flat and the survey has highlighted that the new boiler is unsafe for use due to incorrect installation). They accept the "risk" for a significant discount.

If tanking was law, and administered as per Gas Safe industry, I think the general public would look to "other" alternatives to save a few quid.

Gas or carbon monoxide poisoning tends to be a bigger influencer than an insurance claim due to water ingress in a shower?

Sorry to be a negative influence (I would like to see this as a lawful requirement) but too many (and not just the pikeys) will try to cut costs in areas that they don't see death as a possible consequence.

 

[Daz]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

Or like down here you sighn off on waterproofing stating what was used and must be sighned before occupancy certificate is issued

How does that work in a shower re-tile situation? Where the domestic customer has the option of selecting a "private" tiler (or DIY) to improve their shower area?