Waterproofing - Is it required all the time?

[DHTiling]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

OK, as in all trades there are cowboys who operate with no certs..

BUT would you as a tiler be ok to be assessed to be certified to install shower tiling jobs etc, and this is not to daz but all fixers..

Should the UK tiling market be certified..?

 

[ifindoubtgrout]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

depends on ones budget.. wetroom yes, domestic shower no for me

 

[DHTiling]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

depends on ones budget.. wetroom yes, domestic shower no for me

If a domestic shower is used more than once or twice a day then how do advice to avoid water ingression..?

 

[mikethetile]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

anyone who is not gas safe who even disturbs a live gas line or service is liable to prosecution and if lives or lost or endangered the sentance is custodial

when I was jobbing I would get two or three calls a year from people wanting me to reconnect blackballed gas appliances, I started refusing then after talking to corgi reg plumber I used to look at the condemnation sheet, often it was a simple matter of increasing the ventilation to the boiler area and the gas board would reconnect for a small fee

 

[jay]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

How does that work in a shower re-tile situation? Where the domestic customer has the option of selecting a "private" tiler (or DIY) to improve their shower area?

If it's a building requiring occupancy cert they must have a waterproofing form sighned by tiled
It sort of wipes the hands of the local council
So if something goes wrong it goes back to tiler
A builder can sighn off for you but he wears it

 

[mikethetile]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

OK, as in all trades there are cowboys who operate with no certs..

BUT would you as a tiler be ok to be assessed to be certified to install shower tiling jobs etc, and this is not to daz but all fixers..

Should the UK tiling market be certified..?

simple answer...................yes

its not just tiling, all trades should be certified

 

[Stewart]

Should the UK tiling market be certified..?

Yes...... And the sooner the better!

 

[Daz]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

If it's a building requiring occupancy cert they must have a waterproofing form sighned by tiled
It sort of wipes the hands of the local council
So if something goes wrong it goes back to tiler
A builder can sighn off for you but he wears it

I hear what you are saying Jay, but, what about the situation when the occupant has been in the house for many years and wants a shower refresh? They are not moving home, just improving part of it, does it still need the waterproofing to be signed off?

 

[Daz]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

Should the UK tiling market be certified..?

I wish :lol:

 

[jay]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

I hear what you are saying Jay, but, what about the situation when the occupant has been in the house for many years and wants a shower refresh? They are not moving home, just improving part of it, does it still need the waterproofing to be signed off?

sorry captain mis understood

if its a reno requiring no council approval yes it can be skipped but most of the tilers down here waterproof and the ones that dont make work for us (full rip out and re do ) and there name is mud very quickly

 

[Ceramica Tiling]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

I always sugest tanking to our customers ,give them the pros of having it and cons of not. Guess what 80% of the time they would rather not pay the extra for tanking and take the risk. Saying that using acrlyic primer and ardex never had a comeback.

One builder used to fibreglass the ply and varnish ply on the floor too! never had a leak on that

 

[Scott]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

I think there are far more things that should be inforced before waterproofing, but thats just my take on it. I have done plenty without it that are still fine and dandy.

The problem with any enforcement is the punishment isnt harsh enough, I know a plumber who fitted a heating system illegally, got caught and fined £2000, thats probably what he earned doing the job in the first place. He went straight out the next day and fitted another one that same as he had been doing daily for years

 

[DHTiling]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

I always sugest tanking to our customers ,give them the pros of having it and cons of not. Guess what 80% of the time they would rather not pay the extra for tanking and take the risk. Saying that using acrlyic primer and ardex never had a comeback.

One builder used to fibreglass the ply and varnish ply on the floor too! never had a leak on that

Tell you what, say next time do you know it is regs now to have tanking,, see the reaction..

 

[DHTiling]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

I think there are far more things that should be inforced before waterproofing, but thats just my take on it. I have done plenty without it that are still fine and dandy.

The problem with any enforcement is the punishment isnt harsh enough, I know a plumber who fitted a heating system illegally, got caught and fined £2000, thats probably what he earned doing the job in the first place. He went straight out the next day and fitted another one that same as he had been doing daily for years

Scot so have I and many others.. but.. we should now move with the times and offer a 100% water tight installation don't you agree mate or any other fixer agree.. lets get this totally legalised.. lets push to be certified like many other countries are

 

[Ceramica Tiling]

Re: waterproofing ????????????

Yep i always sign off my tanking, being iam a TILESAFE ENGINEER