what are the chances of my ufh getting damaged removing tiles

[sparkle333]

ive had my bathroom tiled really badly and im going to have it all removed and restarted :-( what are the chances of getting the tiles up with flexi floor adhesive without damaging my heating mats, what is the best way to remove them causing as little damage as possible, ive been told soaking in water or petrol , does anyone know whats best plz ,thx

 

[Gazzer]

Petrol !!!! Yeee gods dont do it.
What size ufh mat do you have ??

The chances are 90% sure you will damage the UFH.

 

[sparkle333]

I think its 2.5 sq metres , I can count how many 45 x 45 cms tiles cover it if that helps

 

[CJ]

Cut your losses.......by the time you may or may not get it all up in one piece.........you can replace for £45

Orbry 2.5m2 Underfloor Heating (375W)

 

[Gazzer]

But the mat wont be the exact size as the floor due to you not wanting to put the mat below the Pan and pedestal etc.

 

[sparkle333]

I paid about £120 is for this that inc touch control thingy, I got if off ebay and thought I had done well cos searched for ages , then ill have to pay for electrician to come and reconnect it too, its annoying being out of pocket for someone elses mistakes

 

[Gazzer]

Fully understand your predicament but at least the mat is the cheaper part and you shouldnt need a new stat or sensor.
I trust the new tiler has been now ?

 

[sparkle333]

no ive got someone coming about 6 but not sure really, cos I had got this carpenter off mybuilder to do my doors, he rang me 2 days ago to ask if I still wanted them doing, I told him about bathroom probs and he said his mate is a tiler and works with him they are putting in a new kitchen together at the mo and can he bring him and promises me hes a good tiler, they are not English , which shouldn't matter but due to all other probs ive had I am worried about getting someone in that knows what the are doing, ive had bathroom ceiling skimmed today, hes said it will take 4 boards to do the main 2 worst walls and half day wage if a tiler wants them done

 

[Gazzer]

Sorry I cant help you with that descision re the tiler . You really need to be sure and see some of their work .....even then anyone could be fooled. Not really the helpfull is it ?

 

[sparkle333]

no lol. but I like honesty, but you only have to see her ad, professional plaster and tiler and think she will be good, how do you know anyone is good unless you see their work, no one in Warwickshire seems to be on here ive seen so far, to even ask if they would give me a quote

 

[Gazzer]

Had it been closer I would have offered but alas too far to be practical.

 

[sparkle333]

I understand that, although u can pitch a caravan on my drive safe petrol lol, loads of people travel 40 mins ish to work , ill make u lots of cuppas and choc bics lol

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save not safe silly me

 

[Gazzer]

i aint buying a caravan !! anyway I am more of a travel lodge person...lol

 

[sparkle333]

i aint buying a caravan !! anyway I am more of a travel lodge person...lol

yea we have 1 of those here, how about a air conditioned tent lol

 

[charlie1]

The biggest factor as to the success of this is how was the UFH installed? Was it immersed in self levelling compound prior to tiling? If so then I give you a 50/50 chance of success... All dependant on other factors too like how long the cement adhesive has been curing? Was the slc primed then tiled? What adhesive bla bla bla...

best set way to go about it, do not attempt to get chisel under tiles and lift!!! Hammer the tiles surface and lift small pieces. Watch those fingers though, wear gloves!

 

[sparkle333]

The biggest factor as to the success of this is how was the UFH installed? Was it immersed in self levelling compound prior to tiling? If so then I give you a 50/50 chance of success... All dependant on other factors too like how long the cement adhesive has been curing? Was the slc primed then tiled? What adhesive bla bla bla...

I can answer most of that, the plywood was coated a few times in some solution that was given with the heating mats, its called fastheat by prowarm to reduce heat loss. the mat was put onto of that then she laid quite a thick layer of flexi adhesive suitable for underfloor heating , its called kwik flex grey tile adhesive, the floor was laid was week tues and weds , hope this helps

 

[charlie1]

I can answer most of that, the plywood was coated a few times in some solution that was given with the heating mats, its called fastheat by prowarm to reduce heat loss. the mat was put onto of that then she laid quite a thick layer of flexi adhesive suitable for underfloor heating , its called kwik flex grey tile adhesive, the floor was laid was week tues and weds , hope this helps

Ok, ok, did she spread the kwik flex over the mat, then allow to set, then back to lay tiles?

 

[sparkle333]

Ok, ok, did she spread the kwik flex over the mat, then allow to set, then back to lay tiles?

I would say no, she covered it completely then laid tiles, but I need to check this, shes just made me an offer, that she will give me some money not sure if allowed to say how much to get someone to remove all tiles and if mat damaged no come back or she will come and remove them carefully herself, although shes got injuries, im thinking whether to meet her half way and get walls removed by someone and floors by her

 

[sparkle333]

I would say no, she covered it completely then laid tiles, but I need to check this, shes just made me an offer, that she will give me some money not sure if allowed to say how much to get someone to remove all tiles and if mat damaged no come back or she will come and remove them carefully herself, although shes got injuries, im thinking whether to meet her half way and get walls removed by someone and floors by her

shes saying she tiled over adhesive fairly quickly , so does that make it easier or harder to remove, do I let her in house to remove all these tiles lol is the question ive got to decide now

 

[charlie1]

shes saying she tiled over adhesive fairly quickly , so does that make it easier or harder to remove, do I let her in house to remove all these tiles lol is the question ive got to decide now

Yes, id her in to remove tiles however, how does she expect to settle the overall dispute? You will now need to buy more tiles / materials. Is she going to pay for this? If yes then let her get the tiles off.

 

[Mr Tiler]

but with her being so inexperienced... can you trust that she will not damage it

 

[Gazzer]

but with her being so inexperienced... can you trust that she will not damage it

Well you seem to be willing and you dont have that much experience ???

 

[Mr Tiler]

she made every mistake possible Neale... theres a high chance she could turn up with a petrol canister

 

[TILER SR]

Cao , me again, if i understand that problem, should be to save the whole old under but the battleground will not boss to pay?

 

[sparkle333]

right omg ive got there I think, shes been to her parents to ask their advice and they have told her to get legal advice ,which she said she decided against but due to her change of mind im wondering anyway after god knows how many emails , think ive got to a solution, shes agreed to put money in my account tomorrow for all the tiles, adhesive, grout, the mat at £50 , thinner plywood for floor and a small amount to get it all removed which im hoping mr t bag will do for me, ive just lost out of the electrician to fit it, which im sure if I had battled on and on might have, but I think shes being quite fair , what do u guys think