What do you think?

[CJ]

Done a lot of work in a big Thatched place down my way a few years ago.

Did a small job there today.

Anyway.....when the place was restored a few years ago...........the original pannets (terracotta tiles) where lifted and cleaned up. (250x250 x approx 30/40mm thick)

The owners chose to have them relaid butted together! (Done by builder)

No grout of any description was used....as they where quite tight together.

Now they are fed up with the muck collecting between the very small joints, These pannets are years and years old.......so not totally square and a bit battered at some of the edges.

Anyway......they now want the things grouted

Not sure on this?, as already mentioned they are 30/40mm thick and it would cost a few bob on grout........and I'm not convinced :icon9:

Was thinking of sand/cement..........or maybe Geofix (usually for block paving) but not used this before.

Has anyone used geofix?????????

Or are there any bright idea's out there??????



Cheers

 

[DHTiling]

hi cj mate...You could use a wet grout mix and just keep pushing it back and forth across the floor until the joints stop absorbing it as the terracotta is very porous on the edges it will set in no time maybe a top up here and there once set.......dave...

 

[CJ]

I did think of that Dave............only problem is. Its a big area (about 50m) and 30/40mm deep.

It will cost a lot for grout........as well as time. which is why Geofix came into my head:icon9:

Don't really want this job......but these are old customers/friends

 

[GazTech]

I did think of that Dave............only problem is. Its a big area (about 50m) and 30/40mm deep.

It will cost a lot for grout........as well as time. which is why Geofix came into my head:icon9:

Don't really want this job......but these are old customers/friends

Bal do a marble and terrazzo grout...very very fine powder...this may do you...Gaz

 

[DHTiling]

hi cj..have looked at geo fix and it looks great gear..if the price is right i would deffo go for that product..........here's a bit of a read for you.........dave....


GEO-fix®
Features and Benefits

• Permanent joint unaffected by wind, rain washout and mechanical cleaning equipment
• Brush applied - no special skills or equipment needed
• Non staining - attractive and neat finish
• Up to 20 times faster to complete than traditional methods
• Durable joints which are unaffected by frost, salt UVA and chemicals
• Resists weed and plant growth between joints
• Water and air permeable - allows for continued nourishment of tree and plant roots
• Enables ornate paving patterns and designs to be jointed quickly and effectively

Fields of Application
GEO-fix® Jointing Compound is a quick and easy way of applying a permanent, rigid joint over 5mm wide and a minimum 25mm deep on all types of paving including:

• Natural Stone
• Concrete
• Slate
• Clay
• Terracotta
• Granite

Application Procedure
Preparation of Substrate
Ensure that the paving to be jointed is dry and free from loose dirt, debris, oil, grease, etc. It is essential that joint widths are a minimum of 5mm wide with a minimum depth of 25mm. Deeper joints can be part filled with dry sand or other dry materials, to the required minimum depth.
GEO-fix® Jointing Compound has superior flexural strength compared to mortar.
GEO-fix® Jointing Compound should be considered for its aesthetic and not its structural properties.

Mixing
GEO-fix® Jointing Compound is supplied ready to use and DOES NOT require any further mixing or addition of any other materials.

Application
Carefully open the vacuum packed bag and sprinkle GEO-fix® Jointing Compound sufficient to cover an area of 4-5 m2 (see coverage table below) Using a soft brush, push the GEO-fix® Jointing Compound into the joints ensuring that they are filled with the compound. To ensure a perfect joint press GEO-fix® Jointing Compound into the joints with a pointing tool, or compact into joints using a vibrating plate. Top up as necessary. Any residue left on the surface when cured can be simply cleaned off by sweeping with a stiff brush

Watchpoints
Use GEO-fix® Jointing Compound within 45 minutes of opening.
Protect treated joints from rain until fully cured. Any contact with rain and water before the compound has set will affect the product.
Do not use at temperatures below 0° C or in wet weather.
The jointing should not be cleaned by use of high-pressure washers until cured for 7 days. The distance between nozzles to jointing must be at least 10 cm.

Packaging
GEO-fix® Jointing Compound is supplied in hermitically sealed 9 kg and 20 kg vacuum packs.

Storage
Store in a cool dry place.
Protect the pack from punctures or piercing.
Any exposure to air will start the curing process.

Shelf Life
GEO-fix® Jointing Compound has a minimum shelf life of 24 months when stored in unopened containers in accordance with the manufacturers instructions.

Coverage
The figures given below are approximate quantities required
5mm joint width 25mm depth10mm joint width 25mm depthMosaic 60mm x 60mm 7 kg m214 kg m2Small100mm x 100mm4 kg m28 kg m2Large400mm x 400mm 1.5 kg m22 kg m2

Technical Data/Typical Properties

Application Temperature Limits0°C to 40°CFreeze/Thaw ResistanceExceeds BCLR: BM2: 1993Curing Time6 - 12 hours at 5°C, 2 - 6 hours at 20°C

Strength Development

Compressive Strength

Sand Cement MortarGEO-fix® Jointing Compound1 day4 N/mm26 N/mm27 days8 N/mm212 N/mm228 days13 N/mm218 N/mm2

Flexural Strength

Sand Cement MortarGEO-fix® Jointing Compound1 day5 N/mm26 N/mm27 days8 N/mm214 N/mm228 days13 N/mm215 N/mm2

Health and Safety
*For full information on Health and Safety matters regarding this product the relevant Material Safety Data Sheet should be consulted.Material Safety Data Sheet


Material - ready for use sand mixture with Polybutadiene bonding agent
Density approx - 1.70 g/cm3
Colour - buff or grey
Storage - Store in cool place out of direct Sunlight
Packaging - 9 kg and 20kg hermitically sealed vacuumed packed foil bags
Joint width - Minimum 5 mm
Min joint depth - with foot traffic - minimum 25 mm.
Min Joint depth - with light vehicular traffic - minimum 40 mm
Working temperature - 0 °C to + 40 °C
Workability duration - * Approx. 45 minutes *.

* At+ 23 °C and 50 % relative air humidity. Higher temperatures shorten working time, lower temperatures extend working times.

 

[GazTech]

well you have me convinced...lol

 

[CJ]

Cheers both.

I went on the geo site and it does look ok for the job.........never used it before.....

 

[DHTiling]

only thing iv,e noticed is the joint width it say's ( min 5mm ) so will have to ring spec line on that one mate............dave..

 

[GazTech]

Cheers both.

I went on the geo site and it does look ok for the job.........never used it before.....

can we have your feedback..after you have put it through its paces....Gaz

 

[CJ]

can we have your feedback..after you have put it through its paces....Gaz

If I do do this Job I will report back and let you know. Maybe before Christmas

I also noticed minimum joint width.........that may be a problem.

 

[GazTech]

Cant think why a microcolour wall grout with GT1 wouldn't do.....Gaz