Which van is best?

[Mike Mike]

My transit is rubbish! New diesel pump ...900 quid, new flywheel 800 quid, all comon faults apparently! Only done 70k, oh and the rust! In the last year...Gearbox selector siezed, power steering pulley siezed, slave cylinder leak. I will never ever buy a transit again! Suppose its just your luck but I have lost all faith in Ford! Think my next van will be a berlingo, had one for 2 year and nothing ever went wrong with it and it was not a new one at the time.

Come on now, be reasonable. It's not Ford's fault, its the Germans.

Ford Transit 2000 - 2001 2.0 2.4 DiProblem: Engine running problems, lack of power and / or failure to start.
Solution: The Transit with the 2.0 and 2.4 DuroTorq Di diesel engines suffer from a failing Bosch injection pump. The cam plate fails in the Bosch VP30 fuel injection pump. The solution is to fit a revised and modified injection pump. The fuel system should be thoroughly cleaned and checked for any metal particles in the fuel system. The revised injection pump has been installed since 12/2001.

Flywheel is their fault, but hey, no one's perfect, :lol:

Ford Transit (rear-wheel drive) 2.4 Di up to 2002
Problem: Repeated premature clutch failure and possible damaged dual mass flywheel.
Solution: A revised final drive ratio (5.13) rear axle should be fitted. This will reduce the top speed of the vehicle, but will aid in situations such as a steep hill with full load, preventing repeat clutch failure.

 

[charlie1]

Mines is a 52 plate mike, what happens with the flywheel is the metal shavings come off and go it to the starter motor (ive replaced 2)

Solution-single mass flywheel! Why not have this fitted in the first place?

 

[Mike Mike]

Mines is a 52 plate mike, what happens with the flywheel is the metal shavings come off and go it to the starter motor (ive replaced 2)

Solution-single mass flywheel! Why not have this fitted in the first place?

Charlie, because people who buy modern Diesel vehicles are all tarts and want them to drive as smoothly as petrol limousines. Dual mass flywheels have a damping mechanism between the two masses which smooth out torque loads of the crankshaft.

Pretty much all modern Diesels have a dual mass flywheel (certainly the VWs, Peugeots, Nissans and everything else that everyone is raving about in this survey. And all the manufacturers recommend changing it whenever you change the clutch. But clearly, modern clutches are so good they can last over 100k, whereas the flywheels often can't).

If customers all wrote to manufacturers and told them that they don't mind their commercial vehicle feeling like a commercial vehicle and would prefer a single mass flywheel, which are cheaper to produce, maybe they would take note???

I guarantee that if you go onto ANY forum about the other vehicles that people drive / love, you will find exactly the same problems as you've had with your Transit. And then some.

At least you've never had a cambelt snap right and knacker your valves and cylinder head. Transit has a camchain (from 2001 onwards). All the rest, including the VW Transporter Sportline, have belts, that need changing ever 70k at tremendous expense. (Mercedes also have a chain).

Transit. If it's good enough for The Sweeney... :lol:

 

[pete f]

TOYOTA HIACE by far the best

 

[Mike Mike]

TOYOTA HIACE by far the best

What these things???? :yikes: File:Toyota Hiace (second generation) D front.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[charlie1]

Charlie, because people who buy modern Diesel vehicles are all tarts and want them to drive as smoothly as petrol limousines. Dual mass flywheels have a damping mechanism between the two masses which smooth out torque loads of the crankshaft.

Pretty much all modern Diesels have a dual mass flywheel (certainly the VWs, Peugeots, Nissans and everything else that everyone is raving about in this survey. And all the manufacturers recommend changing it whenever you change the clutch. But clearly, modern clutches are so good they can last over 100k, whereas the flywheels often can't).

If customers all wrote to manufacturers and told them that they don't mind their commercial vehicle feeling like a commercial vehicle and would prefer a single mass flywheel, which are cheaper to produce, maybe they would take note???

I guarantee that if you go onto ANY forum about the other vehicles that people drive / love, you will find exactly the same problems as you've had with your Transit. And then some.

At least you've never had a cambelt snap right and knacker your valves and cylinder head. Transit has a camchain (from 2001 onwards). All the rest, including the VW Transporter Sportline, have belts, that need changing ever 70k at tremendous expense. (Mercedes also have a chain).

Transit. If it's good enough for The Sweeney... :lol:

Very informative mike, I knew roughly how they worked amd how we don't really need the dual mass!

 

[Fliselege]

TOYOTA HIACE by far the best

I've got one. Great mechanically, goes forever, but rubbisher than rubbish turning circle. Need to do a 27 point turn to get it in a supermarket space. Maybe that's why they stopped making them. Can't wait till it's replaced. Transits O.K now they're making front and four wheel drive, when they were just rear wheel drive they didn't sell here as what sort of mug would have a rear wheel drive in a country covered in snow 6 months of the year.

This is the best thing you can to with a Hiace!!

 

[peteablard]

Renault trafic for me, just done a 600 mile round trip loaded to the roof and still got 37mpg from it

 

[diamondtiling]

VW LT35

More expensive than your average Ford but far more reliable and they hold their money. Mine was £18,000 plus the vat but we get that back so it doesn't count. Payload of 3,500 kilos, I could carry the Ford in the back when they break down.

Next one will be the new sprinter.

 

[Sigma UK]

Transit all the way!

 

[charlie1]

In thinking my next one might be an estate car!

 

[chrisroe]

as a tiler then the transit

ive got a vw transporter and its bloomin great but i use it for family life as well the transit will hold so much kit only downside is the cost to service them

btw the lwb transporter is only 500mm longer than the swb just means i cqn get my bike in the back behind the seats without having to take the front wheel off

 

[andy8758]

This discussion sits up there with the manual cutter debates. Truth to tell all vehicles can go wrong and be expensive to maintain - especially if yours was built at Dagenham at 1400hours on a Friday!

I had a Transit and thought it was awful. I now have a VW Transporter - love driving it - best investment I ever made. But.....

If you have a Transit (or a Vauxhall, Citroen, FGiat, Toyota, Mercedes) and love it - all the best.

PS. Rubi still make the best manual cutters - Sigma are pants.........

 

[Olz]

This discussion sits up there with the manual cutter debates. Truth to tell all vehicles can go wrong and be expensive to maintain - especially if yours was built at Dagenham at 1400hours on a Friday!

I had a Transit and thought it was awful. I now have a VW Transporter - love driving it - best investment I ever made. But.....

If you have a Transit (or a Vauxhall, Citroen, FGiat, Toyota, Mercedes) and love it - all the best.

PS. Rubi still make the best manual cutters - Sigma are pants.........

Agree mate, in terms of cars I've had vauxhalls, Mazda, Peugeot and BMW and if you go on there forums you'll find people complaining about stuff. Fact is most people who never have a problem don't ever go on the forums as they have no need.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Bubblecraft]

Transit for me. Always has been & always will be. My father drove transits all his days & I guess it's stuck now. I started off with a Mk5 SWB FWD in 2009 then moved onto a Mk6 MWB RWD in 2010 & now I have a Mk7 ELWB (Jumbo) RWD bought last year. Holds everything I need & more!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - Couple a' Tools

 

[SR Tiling]

Renault Traffic hard to beat, and on the smaller end would have to be a Transit Connect. Had a vito but wasnt overly impressed.

 

[Dan]

Is this still the same these days? You can change your vote if you've changed your van now.

 

[demi34]

Transit for me 100%

 

[Dan]

My old man always has them. I'd have a transporter myself.