Kitchen tiling: Doing corners with patterned tiles (square)

[diy_dude]

Hi All,

I'm about to start my first tiling job (at home) and after thinking about steps have a few questions regarding corners (inner corner(s).

I have 5 msq area to cover, and my tiles are square, each box of tiles contains 5 different patterns, below is an image of the patterned tiles.

Q1: Should I start from the middle of the wall and go out to edges? This might end up with half a tile when it meets the corner, should I put a complete tile on the other side of the corner, or go for another half which would visually look like a whole tile going round the corner?

My thought is if I follow the rule of going from the middle on all walls, I could end up with strips meeting at the corner and not looking like it forms a whole tile as it goes round the corner, but visually this might not even matter? But im guessing in the world of tiling it defiantly does.

My other thought was maybe its better to start at the beginning of one wall with a complete tile and follow it all the way round the 3 walls, in this case I would get a complete tile look all the way around.

Q2: Because there are multiple patterned tiles, I would assume its a must to pattern match the tile in corners? If I go for working from middle out and end up with half a tile at the corner, the other half tile that connects to it on the other wall should match the same pattern.

Apologies for the basic questions, I have looked on youtube and forums, with no luck on my pattern issue in corners.

Thanks for any direction/advice on the above.

 

[Waluigi]

........and of course line up with the centre of the Hob too!

I’m not suggesting for one second that not wrapping is the way to go or indeed that wrapping is the way to go. I’m simply suggesting that it’s not a black and white argument. Sometimes you need to have an open mind. If you don’t then you become a Dinosaur.

 

[Blunt Tool]

........and of course line up with the centre of the Hob too!

I’m not suggesting for one second that not wrapping is the way to go or indeed that wrapping is the way to go. I’m simply suggesting that it’s not a black and white argument. Sometimes you need to have an open mind. If you don’t then you become a Dinosaur.

 

[Andy Allen]

To many tilers doing there repetitive Victorian floors and not knowing the true meaning of the word 'random'....

 

[Time's Ran Out]

@Andy Allen - I know exactly what random means and those are not ‘random’ - without forethought or attention .
But that’s not the issue - those corners defy logic - to turn out work like that is akin to DIY.

Over 4-5 tiles on a splash back your customers can hide it as with the bottle of wine. But show us your fully tiled bathroom walls with this careless setting out.

 

[Boggs]

View attachment 104833 @Andy Allen - I know exactly what random means and those are not ‘random’ - without forethought or attention .
But that’s not the issue - those corners defy logic - to turn out work like that is akin to DIY.

Over 4-5 tiles on a splash back your customers can hide it as with the bottle of wine. But show us your fully tiled bathroom walls with this careless setting out.

So how would you set it out then John?

4 inch tiles, that wall being the main focal point as it’s part of the range cooker over mantle.
The cuts you see are over half a tile, the other tiles are full tiles as the mantle was built to accommodate them and the grout joints.

 

[Andy Allen]

View attachment 104833 @Andy Allen - I know exactly what random means and those are not ‘random’ - without forethought or attention .
But that’s not the issue - those corners defy logic - to turn out work like that is akin to DIY.

Over 4-5 tiles on a splash back your customers can hide it as with the bottle of wine. But show us your fully tiled bathroom walls with this careless setting out.

Sorry john, but I'm going to have to disagree with you on this.
And as there is no ' god of tiling ' hand book, stating exactly how this should be done, then it's all just your opinion.

And opinions are like arseholes, everybody's got one !

And my opinion is, I don't like it wrapped round, I prefer to see it random, on this particular tile.

 

[widler]

Just stick a settee in front of it , no point wrapping then

 

[Time's Ran Out]

@Andy Allen - I haven’t and I won’t ‘disagree ‘ with any of your posts as it all about doing it correct and a Tiler should know this. The others aren’t worth the effort.
I’d be embarrassed to show those corners and it’s typical of a pretender to our trade to believe that it’s the correct way of doing it and advising a DIYer to copy it as an acceptable way to set out a project.
I’am still waiting for 1 of you 4 who repeatedly disagree to show your method in a full bathroom setting.
You say it’s not a written rule. I doubt if any of you have done a tiling apprenticeship in which case you’d all know how to set out a room.
If you read the OP opening post he’s telling you the correct way because that’s what he believes should happen - then you get these ‘tilers’ pictures showing him DIY blunders! It’s a pattern tile - you follow the pattern round the corner - no wonder our trade fights to gain credibility.

 

[Andy Allen]

I'm out of this one now, before john goes full on snowflake...

Really can't bothered anymore....

 

[Qwerty]

I quite like the random look, it suits the tile after all. I personally would probably match it. Is it wrong?...no. Would I do it that way in a customer's house?...quite possibly yes depending on the customers wishes. I've been asked to do far far worse!
Just showed Mrs Plan Tec and she prefers the random look. Just showed the cat and he started licking himself.
Horses for courses I say!

 

[Blunt Tool]

I quite like the random look, it suits the tile after all. I personally would probably match it. Is it wrong?...no. Would I do it that way in a customer's house?...quite possibly yes depending on the customers wishes. I've been asked to do far far worse!
Just showed Mrs Plan Tec and she prefers the random look. Just showed the cat and he started licking himself.
Horses for courses I say!

Cats probably a plumber tho

 

[Waluigi]

For what it’s worth, I value the opinions of everyone on the forum, no matter how many posts they have on the forum, badges they have under their name or which trade they started their career in.

Everyone has something to bring to the table, even Calla......everyone

 

[Qwerty]

Cats probably a plumber tho

He is.... I taught him!

 

[Blunt Tool]

He is.... I taught him!

I asked him about random

 

[Andy Allen]

Where's @Boggs post gone....???

 

[Waluigi]

Let’s wrap this up now as I think we’ve turned the corner

Those who know, know. We don’t need to say it anymore

 

[Andy Rhodes]

Start from the middle of the cooker hood & wrap round if it works out to be a small cut, cut another tile of the same pattern,but do it so it looks like it's from the same tile

 

[One Day]

Interesting - strong opinions again!
I've worked with, and seen work from many "prominent" (note the quotation marks) tilers in the industry. Award winners, industry figures etc...
Some of the things they do shocked me, equally though, some of the things I do would likely shock them!
In my opinion, if a customer is truly happy and you get paid, it's a success.
Everything else is just opinion...

 

[widler]

Ok , my opinion, not the settee, although that’s a industry changer
My opinion is , if it has a pattern you wrap it , or try your best if possible ,I suppose there are always variables which makes it impossible , but if it has a pattern you wrap it.
I’ve done it both ways I think, I’m really a self taught tiler , although I did it in my apprenticeship, it was only site tiling, and it’s nowt like 6x6 tiling now I don’t do mosaics, hate em, not done much geo , I’d leave that to the specialists like John who have grown up on it, and if I’m honest, I’ve lost interest in work now and would like to retire abroad with a big boat and villa with a pool

 

[Time's Ran Out]

I’am into pools just now!

 

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