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Hey guys! After tiling my bathroom and ensuite last year which would not have been possible without the fantastic advice and knowledge on this website I'm now planning to tile our back porch!

It's small less than 2 metres square and is currently vinyl tiles (ffs!)

I bought some 330mm ceramics from topps.

Questions!

After a few layers of different vinyls have been removed ( not yet!) Should I remove as much of glue as poss, make a slurry coat and then self level?
 
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Dunlop is alright gear, it's under the BAL umbrella. Basically BAL gear for the diy market. Don't think they do a 2part slc but their leveller flows quite nice. Using Dunlop you could do as you suggested yourself, mix a slurry coat and level over that. Once the leveller is dry you could prime before fixing but isn't strictly necessary, though if you're using a fast set you'll find it gives you a little more adjustment time. Agree with comment re Larsen, used it once and swore never again.
 
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This all seems a hassle for a 2metre floor! Just go with the Dunlop, its on your doorstep and it'll work perfectly fine. Slurry, slc, Set Fast Plus addy is half decent gear. I know tilers in north Wales who won't use anything but Dunlop. Given the size of the floor, once your slurry is dry mix the full bag of leveller with 5litres of water and pour, let it flow and you're good to go.
 
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Thanks for all the help so far guys. It really is appreciated.
I think I'll hit armatile tbh, I liked using the mapei before and maybe I'll give the Mrs a trip around the shops whilst there!

Do armatile sell eco prime t?

I have the vinyl lifted n 80% of the glue scraped off, would a grinder with a wire wheel be OK to strip off the rest?

So to plan if I totally remove the glue?

Eco prime t floor
Renovation screed SLC
Prime again? Using?
Keraflex adhesive? ( do I need keraflex maxi?)

How does that sound?


There is no fball and co in n.Ireland as far as I can see

Rich Midge, thanks for the alternative suggestion but I think it would be nice to skip the slurry coat stage and using mapei I hope I can stick to same brand of primers/SLC/addy etc
 
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Going to change plan!

Eco prime t as far as I know can only be bought in larger containers and as I'm only tiling 2/3 metres I don't want to pay that much and then throw it out! It is quite expensive!

Reading between the lines of this thread I've came to the following conclusions

- if I can remove 100% of glue I don't need a slurry coat and I can use any SLC ( doesn't have to be two part)

So I can sbr and use slc and then tile.

- if I can't get 100% of the glue removed I can either slurry coat and use any SLC and then tile

Or

Use a two part SLC n then tile

Am I correct in this?
 
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STEvieXE said:
Going to change plan!

Eco prime t as far as I know can only be bought in larger containers and as I'm only tiling 2/3 metres I don't want to pay that much and then throw it out! It is quite expensive!

Reading between the lines of this thread I've came to the following conclusions

- if I can remove 100% of glue I don't need a slurry coat and I can use any SLC ( doesn't have to be two part)

So I can sbr and use slc and then tile.

- if I can't get 100% of the glue removed I can either slurry coat and use any SLC and then tile

Or

Use a two part SLC n then tile

Am I correct in this?
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Yes.
 
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STEvieXE

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And the Saga continues!

Went to tile shop number 1

Had no two part leveler or standard set adhesive and when I asked for sbr he asked me what that was! He then told me to try tile shop number two!

Tile shop number 2

Asked for leveller adhesive n primer

Brought it all out from back n put it in the car.

So I come home happy n inspect my purchases!
He'd given me a latex smoothing compound to bed trowelled on. So dubious of my trowelling skills I wasn't amused but thought lets try this!

Back to the floor, I taped up the door n got to work with my grinder to clean the remainder of the glue off. Went over the full floor and inspected after, all it really did was smear it around. So started to scrape again!

Scraped an hour and getting more n more annoyed, I read the instructions on the smoothing gear. It said can be applied over non soluble residue but no bitumen! My knowledge of glue residue being very slim injust got confused and angry! Boiled the kettle to try heating the glue n to my surprise it turned it white and made it bubble up and Easy?! to scraclean. I scrubbed the floor clean using clean water n left it to dry out.

I then decided to use the leftover SLC from my living room so I could pour it rather than trowel it. Primed the floor and out on the SLC and that's where I'm at now!
 
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STEvieXE said:
And the Saga continues!

Went to tile shop number 1

Had no two part leveler or standard set adhesive and when I asked for sbr he asked me what that was! He then told me to try tile shop number two!

Tile shop number 2

Asked for leveller adhesive n primer

Brought it all out from back n put it in the car.

So I come home happy n inspect my purchases!
He'd given me a latex smoothing compound to bed trowelled on. So dubious of my trowelling skills I wasn't amused but thought lets try this!

Back to the floor, I taped up the door n got to work with my grinder to clean the remainder of the glue off. Went over the full floor and inspected after, all it really did was smear it around. So started to scrape again!

Scraped an hour and getting more n more annoyed, I read the instructions on the smoothing gear. It said can be applied over non soluble residue but no bitumen! My knowledge of glue residue being very slim injust got confused and angry! Boiled the kettle to try heating the glue n to my surprise it turned it white and made it bubble up and Easy?! to scraclean. I scrubbed the floor clean using clean water n left it to dry out.

I then decided to use the leftover SLC from my living room so I could pour it rather than trowel it. Primed the floor and out on the SLC and that's where I'm at now![/QUOTE
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well eventually your getting there, you seem to be on the home straight now
 
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