BAL Bal Rapid Flex Fibre Plus Vs Ultimate

[Rich Midge]

I've quoted for a job 35 metres polished porcelain using TileMaster Ultimate onto a newly screeded Orangery. The customer has since come back saying Topps will give them a substantial discount on the tiles if they purchase the Bal adhesive in the title. Anyone out there used it? Is it any good? Can it really justify being twice the price of Ultimate?

 

[White Room]

There paying for the adhesive...aren't they?

 

[Rich Midge]

Indeed they are......don't like seeing people getting ripped off though. Bal gear at Topps seems particularly overpriced.

 

[One Day]

It's very good adhesive - BAL of course.
Nice to work with too. Goes off a bit faster than TM Ultimate though.
The downside is that the customer will likely be paying about £50 a bag in order to get their discount on the tiles.

(I'd be really careful with customers like that. - a bit thick! 😕 )

 

[Rich Midge]

We've already had lengthy discussions over the screed, along the lines of "my builder says it'll be dry enough to tile on in 2 days"! So yeah I agree, tread carefully with customers like these.

 

[White Room]

Why pay you to do the job when the builder knows more😵

 

[One Day]

Builders:

 

[Rich Midge]

In the end I googled 'when can I tile onto a new screed?' on my phone in front of them............slow realisation I might actually know a little bit about the trade!

 

[Andy Allen]

What's an orangery. .

 

[Bill]

What's an orangery. .

A posh conservatory......

 

[J Sid]

What's an orangery. .

Really Andy. 🙁

 

[J Sid]

We've already had lengthy discussions over the screed, along the lines of "my builder says it'll be dry enough to tile on in 2 days"! So yeah I agree, tread carefully with customers like these.

There are ways you can tile the screed after a few days.
Sounds like Topps need to up there figures on the sales of bal products.

 

[Rich Midge]

I've nothing against Bal, years ago it was always our first choice gear. I think manufacturers have caught up now though (some at least) and if you can get a comparable product for half the price from a still relatively small independent company such as TileMaster, then I'd rather go that route. As for tiling onto a green screed, agree perfectly possible with the right gear and wallet, still rather it dry though.

 

[Old Mod]

Well without knowing all the facts,
Ultimate would seem the perfect choice,
It is a green screed adhesive anyway.

 

[Rich Midge]

Well without knowing all the facts,
Ultimate would seem the perfect choice,
It is a green screed adhesive anyway.

Exactly!! Screed should be dry but priced for Ultimate as a just in case.

 

[Andy Allen]

Really Andy. 🙁

Why don't you just call it a bloody conservatory then....orangery. ...really...who grows oranges in this country. ..🙂

 

[J Sid]

I would have thought everyone call's a conservative an orangery in posh Gloucester @Andy Allen 😉

 

[Andy Allen]

I would have thought everyone call's a conservative an orangery in posh Gloucester @Andy Allen 😉

We call it an outhouse..lol

 

[J Sid]

Your Peckham roots letting you down again Dave 😉

 

[Old Mod]

@JulianSidney

 

[bcd-87]

What's an orangery. .

ahahahhah.. i thought it was a massive greenhouse for veg and fruit

 

[Rich Midge]

Customer decided to go with Ultimate, cheaper and more than suitable for the job. Customer told Topps. Topps said fine, your free delivery is now £60. Customers said ok we'll have your adhesive.
Not looking forward to this one, potential nightmare customers me thinks.

 

[Old Mod]

Customer decided to go with Ultimate, cheaper and more than suitable for the job. Customer told Topps. Topps said fine, your free delivery is now £60. Customers said ok we'll have your adhesive.
Not looking forward to this one, potential nightmare customers me thinks.

I always thought their delivery was £30!

 

[J Sid]

I always thought their delivery was £30!

Free if ordered online, as I found out today

 

[Rich Midge]

Free if ordered online, as I found out today

I always thought their delivery was £30!

The plot thickens!

 

[J Sid]

I have a customer next week who has chosen a tile from Topps, against my advice and was told £200 for delivery, 1 pallet. He went online and got free delivery

 

[Andy Allen]

So basically they hold customers to ransom over the price of tiles and delivery to make sure they buy there adhesive at a rip off price..

 

[EdinTiler]

#Bawbags

 

[bcd-87]

So basically they hold customers to ransom over the price of tiles and delivery to make sure they buy there adhesive at a rip off price..

They're all massive James Blunts..

 

[Perry]

Am I diffrent? been in Topps twice because I thought the fist time was a mistake.

 

[Rich Midge]

Am I diffrent? been in Topps twice because I thought the fist time was a mistake.

Ha! You're not alone. Been in a few times, I have the odd customer that just loves them. I think they presume the premium price = premium product. 99% of the time I get my own way over adhesives, though not this time :-(