My 1st Job Sealing around shower door frame.

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The Enforcer

• Mar 18, 2019

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I have refitted my ensuite and I have made it to the last step only to run into trouble I cant seem to fix.

I have a tiled shower floor with wet room tray underneath, all tanked etc and tiled the walls. Sliding shower door frame fitted. Siliconed up where the metal meets the tile but I keep getting a tiny amount of water though the frame.

I have removed the Silicon, cleaned it up, refitted but still the same problem - only slightly better this time. It is somewhat "submerged" as it gains about 1cm of water as the 4bar pump through the Grohe RainShower really dumps it out.

Should I have primed the shower door frame or anything like that ?

 

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• Mar 18, 2019

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Siliconed on the outside of the frame I assume?

 

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Both sides actually.
But since removing, just the inside.
Im sure thats what the destructions said to do.

 

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• Mar 18, 2019

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Which shower screen brand is it?

I’ve never installed a screen that suggested you seal the inside. Not the bottom horizontal profile anyway.

There are quite precise instructions for sealing shower screens depending on the type. Perhaps if you posted a photo?

 

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What Silicon? Mapei or Dow Corning would be my choice. Use a Fugi tool to smooth it out. Ensure its all thoroughly de-greased before

 

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I used MapeiSil and the shower door was from B&Q - Cooke & Lewis Beloya Shower door with 2 panel sliding door & Mirror Glass (W)1000mm | DIY at B&Q - https://www.diy.com/departments/cooke-lewis-beloya-shower-door-with-2-panel-sliding-door-mirror-glass-w-1000mm/1620791_BQ.prd

 

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My guess is it is coming through where the horizontal and vertical parts of the frame meet or as you have a build up of water within the enclosure it’s making its way between the wall channel and frame.

 

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I think you need to photograph the problem .

 

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Boggs said:

My guess is it is coming through where the horizontal and vertical parts of the frame meet or as you have a build up of water within the enclosure it’s making its way between the wall channel and frame.

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This is what I think. I think it was making its way through the wall channel and it was coming out where the lower horizontal met the upright.

Photos to follow.

 

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Here are the photos of the room (my first real effort at tiling) and the shower enclosure.

Its currently not sealed on the outside. But it is on the inside. After studying the destructions - it doesnt seem that it should be sealed on the inside. RTFM!

But even so - when it was sealed on both sides - the water still got in and came through where the lower bar meets the side bars.

 

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The Enforcer said:

I have refitted my ensuite and I have made it to the last step only to run into trouble I cant seem to fix.

I have a tiled shower floor with wet room tray underneath, all tanked etc and tiled the walls. Sliding shower door frame fitted. Siliconed up where the metal meets the tile but I keep getting a tiny amount of water though the frame.

I have removed the Silicon, cleaned it up, refitted but still the same problem - only slightly better this time. It is somewhat "submerged" as it gains about 1cm of water as the 4bar pump through the Grohe RainShower really dumps it out.

Should I have primed the shower door frame or anything like that ?

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I know it's a bit late now but may be you should of thought about how much water your drain could deal with when fitting your shower pump .

 

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• Mar 18, 2019

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That’s a standard framed screen.

Before installing the screen, the joint between wall and floor needs siliconing and the Silicon to have set.

Then seal both vertical horizontal profiles on the inside where the profiles meet the tiles, from the top of the profile to the bottom and no more.

Then on the outside you want to seal the the vertical profiles as they meet the tiles and all along the bottom profile as it meets the floor.

Also the section where the main screen slides into the compensating profile up about an inch to 4”

Also if the screens horizontal profile screws into the vertical profile, that needs a bead too.

A pic to show the detail. Silicon isn’t yet smoothed off. Red marker to show the sealant.

All screens have the same principle.

 

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Usually only the outside wants Silicon so that water doesn't get trapped. If it's filling up you may have to restrict the water flow.

 

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You are fine with Silicon in the inside vertical channels but not on the bottom between channel and floor as condensation builds up inside the wall channel and this needs to drain back into the wet area.

 

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So I had Silicon exactly along the red line - i just had it on the wrong side.

My (untrained) logic was to stop the water getting under there in the first place. But I guess it makes sense to let it in and out without trapping it.

It isnt so much the problem with the rates of flow and waste, more that my tiling game isnt quite on point and it seems to build up in that corner only.
Its an awesome shower when its going - certainly beats the salmon suite and green carpet that we had ! It looks pretty - just cant use it at the moment.