adhesive behind travertine tiles - this can't be right??

[jay]

the tiler also has blame on his shoulders

if it does give way and someone gets hurt who will pay then

your insurance i think not as its not to standards

 

[diamondtiling]

All of this is on the second floor in a loft conversion isn't it? If so you are taking a bit of a gamble if you leave it like it is and hope that it wont leak, dont you agree? It needs to be rectified properly not just a make do job. Get the guy who is in charge to pay for the materials and your wasted time or sue him through the courts.
Accept no excuses.

 

[joun]

diamondtiling - I agree. I'm not in an ideal situation though, because the contractor is halfway through a major house refurb, with most of it paid upfront, and I don't want him walking out. So far the relationship is good with him and he is getting a better tiler in to finish the job.

I've got Kerdi behind the tiles and will get them to grout with epoxy, as well as replace the the tiles above head level. Would I be OK with that?

 

[chrisroe]

Travatine and epoxy should not be done imhp

 

[joun]

chris - really? I thought epoxy is sometimes used for filling travertine.. What would happen if they did grout with epoxy? The tiles will be sealed prior to grouting...

 

[Deleted member 9966]

hi Joun

regardless of grouting with epoxy and having a tanking system behind the tiles, if the dot and dab fixing method were to fail, who will you hold responsible for the failure. the professional members of this forum and Mapei technical have all emphasised that the fixing method used is completely wrong. The tiles need taking down and the room fitted from scratch to ensure it meets the required British Standards.

Now if your contractor in charge of your refurb does a bunk because you've already paid him up front and he doesn't want the hassle, then you must learn from this situation that you shouldn't pay for work before it's actually done and completed to the satisfactory standard.

You cannot compromise on the safety of your children. You need to tell the contractor that the whole lot must be removed and started again, and it will not be at your cost, it will be at his. If the contractor chooses to seek losses from the tiler then that is for him to pursue separately. You are the customer and you are paying for the job. The job has not been done correctly. Your contractor overseeing these works needs to be held accountible for this.

GRR

 

[kilty55]

children in the home.....................DO NOT RISK HURTING THEM.

demand the contractor fixes this at his cost,its not your problem if you think he doesnt have the money...you say you have paifd him upfront for a house refurb so he clearly does have the money. anyway the minute you say your chasing him for the money through the courts you can bet your bottom dollar he will in turn seek compensation from the tiler in the same fashion


you have a very good case and i dont see how you cant win here...go for it and get it done properly

 

[diamondtiling]

I agree with Liz, you cant be held to ransom by someone that you have employed to do major works in your house. You really should not have paid up front but thats done now. If you have an outstanding balance when these works are finished will it be more than what has been spent on the wet room? If so just dont pay it and get a pro from this forum.

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

you must face your builder here joun!!! sorry

 

[CJ CERAMICS]

In my opinion the contractor is responsible for replacing all materials and tiles as he is the one who has employed the tiler....he then should recoup his costs from the tiler for poor fixing methods....and sorry joun but i have to agree with the others and say that you wil have to rip it out and do it properley if you want to have piece of mind every time you step into the shower.

chris

 

[Gazzer]

I told you in my 1st reply what he would say !
So he reckons he has 7mm of adhesive on a floor of 6m2 and he used how many bags ?? I assume they were 20kg bags. You could have done that area with one and half bags...but lets say 2 bags.....where has the rest gone ?? In his van ?
Epoxy will only give you a water tight joint, I guess it will be a nightmare to do as well. It wont stop water penetrating the tiles and with all those voids behind the tiles its a recipe for disaster in the future weeks/months or years ...who knows ?
Mapei were not talking politics....they were talking standards ! As will all other adhesive manufacturers.

 

[Gazzer]

I wonder if he dot and dabbed the floor too? Wait for the cracks to show !
Joun, I am as annoyed as you over this ....actually probably more so.

 

[doug boardley]

Is there any sign of dot and dab staining leeching through onto the face of the tiles yet?