advice needed : SLC kitchen floor with new kitchen just fitted

[Ceramico tiling]

I have experience to the contrary as do all the other tilers I know. Your method is expensive, laborious & could lead to less than 100% coverage

Yes if you cant do it,it will lead to under coverage!!Thats why its good to practice it not just rely on the mm of your notch trowel. All I want to know is what is your experience or anyone elses with the adhesive build-up?? Have you seen cracks or tiles cracking or what??

 

[charlie1]

the tiler should be able to start from the highest ppoint and just level it with the tiles. the leveling compound will just save on tile adhesive. I wouldnt bother if I was calling a tiler

Hi ceramico, do you mean tiler should get it flat or level,.... There is a big difference! To even attempt to build up 30mm of adhesive rather than using gravity and slc is totally beyond me. I can't think of an adhesive that goes that thick, and would be labouring and messy

 

[charlie1]

Yes if you cant do it,it will lead to under coverage!!Thats why its good to practice it not just rely on the mm of your notch trowel. All I want to know is what is your experience or anyone elses with the adhesive build-up?? Have you seen cracks or tiles cracking or what??

Why is it good to practice it??

 

[Ceramico tiling]

Hi Charlie

I havnt used SLC much, so I have always just used adhesives as I go.I level the floors and it isnt that messy once you get the knack.

 

[Qwerty]

Yes if you cant do it,it will lead to under coverage!!Thats why its good to practice it not just rely on the mm of your notch trowel. All I want to know is what is your experience or anyone elses with the adhesive build-up?? Have you seen cracks or tiles cracking or what??

Luckily I can honestly say that I have no experience in this situation. If it was done I would imagine it would far exceed max adhesive bed depth, could cause slumping, and in some situations it may not comply with British Standards. I have better things to do to be honest Ceramico than practice playing with adhesive bed depths!

 

[Ceramico tiling]

Why is it good to practice it??

I think its good to learn how to float a floor properly.I mean to learn exactly how much adhesive is required under a tile to achieve good coverage whilst considering what the floor is doing and the level. This I find helps with large format tiles and stone. You can also use it to create falls etc

 

[Qwerty]

You can also use it to create falls etc

Yes, I agree with you on this point

 

[charlie1]

Hi ceramico, I do wonder if your at the windup lol, slc is to tiles what ruler is to straight line, its maybe the easiest way to speed your work up and I think you should wholeheartedly embrace it. Pour....spread.... Spike roller.... Bing, level floor (overnight) I once was asked by customer to feather tiles up to inch deep bed as they had height issues, it was not an enjoyable experience, I think the adhesive I got on my snickers that day are still on them!

 

[Ceramico tiling]

Hi ceramico, I do wonder if your at the windup lol, slc is to tiles what ruler is to straight line, its maybe the easiest way to speed your work up and I think you should wholeheartedly embrace it. Pour....spread.... Spike roller.... Bing, level floor (overnight) I once was asked by customer to feather tiles up to inch deep bed as they had height issues, it was not an enjoyable experience, I think the adhesive I got on my snickers that day are still on them!

I must admit its been very hard work to do all my tiling this way. And there have been times that I have had to lift up every single tile,and some even over 4\5 times to adjust the adhesive/coverage. But I promise that after a few years your tiles will start wanting to level themselves for you no matter what the surface is like.You will get your full coverage without having to lift them up eventually.But most importantly you can transfer the skill to other trades like carpentry(which is what I am doing now). Because you have to work with your level every bloody second, eventually its like you get a little level in your head and you gain much more control over what ever work you are doing.. Probably not the best method as stated above, with which I do agree in terms of guarantees etc.But well worth the effort if one wants to challenge themselves and gain a useful skill. I am still so curious about the build up of adhesive and what ACTUALLY happens if it exceeds 20mm or so.??????? If anyone can tell me I will be very great full

 

[Qwerty]

I am still so curious about the build up of adhesive and what ACTUALLY happens if it exceeds 20mm or so.??????? If anyone can tell me I will be very great full

Phone Mapei technical on 0121 508 6970........ they will soon give you the info you require

 

[bugs183]

I'm sorry Ceramico but you are just making life really really hard for yourself, for two reasons.
1.SLC's are designed to float around and give 100% coverage, and the really good stuff will flatten itself out to 50mm.
To do this will take miles less time and certainly way less effort and swearing. Money wise maybe the same.
The SLC will be working to the manufacturers spec and so will the adhesives that go on top.
2. If a floor is out from end end to the other then that can create a world of trouble with doors, steps and stairs etc.
Some floors are flat, yet not level, i use a cd case or a credit card to show customers, they are flat, but hold them at an angle and it is still flat, yet not level.

Honestly mate, i understand your point on knowing that the tiles are bedded correctly, but try some 'Mapei Renovation Screed', a gauge rake and a spiked roller, with some old trainers screwed into spike footbeds. You'll never look back.

 

[charlie1]

Blocko, I think you like a challenge and from that point of view then fair enough. What did rulers do before slc came on the market? It's good to learn new (or old) skills , but do me one favour mate.... Start using slc and trust it, embrace any new technology. I think this is way forward

 

[Martino]

I have had this problem in the past, exactly the same infact.....if your self leveling the floor before tiling, hopefully the kitchen fitters would have realised if you need some self leveler where the washing machine fits there is enough height for it to fit under the worktop after slc and tiles!....if not then...NIGHTMARE!!!

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

oh dear no need for any worry if you get the client to ring up the suppler of the washing machine dish washer and ask for a hight reduction kit this is a flat pannel that takes the place of the origainl top about £50 to £80 have done this a few times its lower by 20 to 30 mm

 

[Qwerty]

Blocko, I think you like a challenge and from that point of view then fair enough. What did rulers do before slc came on the market? It's good to learn new (or old) skills , but do me one favour mate.... Start using slc and trust it, embrace any new technology. I think this is way forward

I think you are directing this at ceramico, not me! :lol: