Advice to an Apprentice.

[Time's Ran Out]

Could be anything from Watch, listen and learn to Good job!

For me it was - wear gloves!
Sand and cement pin holes are very painfull.

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Could be anything from Watch, listen and learn to Good job!

For me it was - wear gloves!
Sand and cement pin holes are very painfull.

Good advice there John, I might add the odd "get off that bloody phone"

 

[Time's Ran Out]

40 years ago it would be trying to find the red box on some street corner!
It will be like radios soon and they will be banned on sites.
What I find is Tilers spend all their time on those Forums instead of earning real money.

 

[stone tiler]

The day end when the jobs done, not at 3.30! That's the point I have to keep ramming home

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Surely that's a Draconian point of view made by a tyrant employer rather than the present day approach of understanding employment laws.
The encouragement of additional remuneration for production would be a better way of installing the work ethic that you seem to suggest.
If the apprentice is on the job for 7.30/8.00 and does a solid days work, with travelling times he can be doing a 9 hour day at least. 45 hours for a basic wage seems reasonable for most.

 

[stone tiler]

Haha I've been called a lot of things but Draconian is a new one...tyrant is what the wife calls me!!

I suppose it depends on the "basic wage" element. What is the minimum wage today?

And travelling can't count as part of the workday either, that's just life. Asda etc don't count travelling in their daily working hours allowance and they also ban mobile phones/facebook/tea breaks whilst on the job. I'm actually far too soft!! haha

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

We had no mobile phones no Pizza Hut, no subway we had to carry the hand cart and the horse up the cobbled streets when the horse got tired all this off a dry scrap of Hovis**yawn**:drool5:

 

[CJ]

Bloody hell........listen to you old farts.

Makes me feel young......even at 52.

 

[mz30]

Haha I've been called a lot of things but Draconian is a new one...tyrant is what the wife calls me!!

I suppose it depends on the "basic wage" element. What is the minimum wage today?

And travelling can't count as part of the workday either, that's just life. Asda etc don't count travelling in their daily working hours allowance and they also ban mobile phones/facebook/tea breaks whilst on the job. I'm actually far too soft!! haha

Have to disagree with the travelling time,people who work in asda generally live close to work,am doing 130 miles a day I give the boss two hours in the morning he gives me two hours in the afternoon,or I simply wouldn't travel that far.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Bloody hell........listen to you old farts.

Makes me feel young......even at 52.

Definetly - but what advice can you provide ( other than not listening to old farts)

 

[TJ Smiler]

Knee pads and quality dust mask..........It really doesn't make you a 'Hard Nut' to not use either.

 

[stone tiler]

Have to disagree with the travelling time,people who work in asda generally live close to work,am doing 130 miles a day I give the boss two hours in the morning he gives me two hours in the afternoon,or I simply wouldn't travel that far.

But if you're honest that's the decision you make. You don't have to travel, there is no gun to your head. You could find more local work or drop your price accordingly to find the local work...or work at your local Asda/Tesco/Etc.

I'm lucky that most of my projects are localish to me but when I do have to travel I have to weigh up if the jobs worth it or not. I can't add the travelling cost to the quote of or I would loose the job. Therefore the apprentice/labourer can't charge me for travelling time to get to the job. It all comes down to do I/he want the job and most importantly how quickly I/we can get it done and sometimes that means working until 6/7. I've just done a job where the drive was 80 minutes each way. It was for a builder I do lots of work for so I had to either upset the builder by charging extra and risk the contract or swallow on the travelling times/cost. The labourer didn't agree so he had the week off unpaid.

You have to weigh it up/look at the bigger picture and make the decision. Everyone has different guidelines and commitments

 

[Time's Ran Out]

I started a seperate thread 'travelling time'.

Keep this thread for advice to an Apprentice.

 

[White Room]

As said dust masks are paramount...in my young days on site guys would be cutting asbestos sheets anywhere..

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Get used to wearing toe cap protected footwear!
You won't be allowed on the buildings in trainers.