Bad code of practice, how do you compete

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Just been reading a thread about bad methods, didn't want to hijack it so I thought I would post a new one. Any of you guys & gals come across this one, a mate of mine who shall remain nameless. Having moved into a new area couldn't understand why he never won a floor tile job, he was pricing for prepping timber floors using either 18mm exterior ply or backer board.



He found out later that every tiler in his new area had the same method for over-laying T&G / chipboard etc. this entails fixing plaster board using flex adhesive bedded onto T&G etc. and clout head nails, then using same addy to fix tiles?????? He tells me he had to adopt this method to compete. He also says he has never had a failure ??????:yikes::ban:

 

[Sean Page]

well it's different :yikes:

 

[White Room]

Not something I'll be trying in the near future, hope there's none in the bathroom:ban::yikes::yikes:

 

[doug boardley]

Not something I'll be trying in the near future, hope there's none in the bathroom:ban::yikes::yikes:

same as for me:yikes:

 

[merlecollins]

That's scary:yikes:

Is that in the UK Phil???

 

[peckers]

I havent seen that done for tiling! but i have seen it on site where they have put plasterboard on the floor and then fitted laminate, the fitters said it was a cheap way of cutting the noise down to the floor below....

 

[DHTiling]

Shocking..😳

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

That's scary:yikes:

Is that in the UK Phil???

Hi Kev, yes the UK been going on for years I belive. I can't reveal the area, but I can say it is a coastal resort and has a big tower.

 

[DHTiling]

LOL.. Donkey tilers..:lol:

 

[White Room]

I can't believe the clout nails:yikes:

 

[DHTiling]

I can't believe the clout nails:yikes:

Did you know, hardi backer can be fixed with Roofing clouts.. the barbed type... i prefer screws.

 

[Rich]

ouch! That is a new one on me and I dont like the idea of trying it either! Im amazed that he hasnt had any failures.

 

[Ken Bruty]

:yikes: what else can I say.

 

[Scott]

Do they ply the walls instead?

 

[Rich]

Why doesnt your mate just under cut all the others and board the floors out in newspaper?

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Why doesnt your mate just under cut all the others and board the floors out in newspaper?

Never thought of that:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[Aston]

nothing surprises me anymore..

 

[White Room]

Make sure it's the daily star, when it comes up will be something interesting to read:yikes:

 

[Rob Z]

Just been reading a thread about bad methods, didn't want to hijack it so I thought I would post a new one. Any of you guys & gals come across this one, a mate of mine who shall remain nameless. Having moved into a new area couldn't understand why he never won a floor tile job, he was pricing for prepping timber floors using either 18mm exterior ply or backer board.



He found out later that every tiler in his new area had the same method for over-laying T&G / chipboard etc. this entails fixing plaster board using flex adhesive bedded onto T&G etc. and clout head nails, then using same addy to fix tiles?????? He tells me he had to adopt this method to compete. He also says he has never had a failure ??????:yikes::ban:

Let me double-check this....Phil, what you call Plasterboard in the UK is what we call drywall, right? Is this for real? Drywall on the floor?:yikes::yikes:

Our version of this bottom feeding here is what we call a "Jersey Mud Job" ...this method entails installing expanded metal lath with staples on the floor and then thinset is skimmed over the surface and allowed to harden. Then, tiles are set on this ~ 1/4" thick layer of crap. The real hackers :lol: skim the lath and set the tile in one step. And they have the cojones to tell the customer that they are doing mudwork.:mad2:

 

[Rob Z]

Also, what are "clout nails"?

 

[Colour Republic]

Type of nail commonly used in roofing, large heads on them rob, although it was common practice to hang plasterboard aka drywall also

 

[Rob Z]

Thanks, Rob. Drywall nails that have been in use here for 50 years or so are ring-shanked and grab like crazy once they're driven. The heads on these nails are a good bit smaller in diameter than roofing nails (which are always galvanized). Drywall nails are usually "blued", although I don't know what they are that way (I usually think of "blueing" on the steel of a firearm).

 

[Colour Republic]

Yeah the drywall clout nails did have a smaller head but weren't shanked back then, it's quite uncommon now (past 10-15 years maybe) to fix plasterboard with anything other than drywall screws in fact I think it's against building regs to board a ceiling with nails nowadays. Most of the plasterboard I rip out has been nailed up (nice and easy to de-nail) I shall change industry when it becomes the norm to rip out plasterboard that has been screwed up, I have a feeling it's going to be quicker to replace the whole wall:mad2:

 

[jay]

you have to be joking plasterboard on floors how could you garantee that:mad2:

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Sorry guys turned in early missed your replies, thanks colour for stepping in I know it's madness using plaster board/dry wall on floors:mad2:

 

[CJ CERAMICS]

think i'll have to try that method........😳errr on second thoughts maybe not lol

 

[CJ]

9mm or 12mm.

:yikes::yikes:


Are you sure that they wasn't taking the plasterboard studs down and someone looked in just as they dropped it on the floor :lol:

 

[davy_G]

He also says he has never had a failure ??????:yikes::ban:[/QUOTE]


Mmmm, he is a bit early in saying never had a failure. As my Dad saiys 'Never is a long time'