Discuss bread and butter kitchen in the Canada Tile Advice area at TilersForums.com.

S

steve187

some difference in meterage rates ranging from £32.00 to £100.00 psm

Think i will have to return home to the east end, the last job i remember doing in london was at the old bryant and mays match factory,now the bow quarter, £108 for a bathroom, no bath fitted, 2 or 3 walls tiled off batterns, did 2 a day back in the late 80's
 
P

Peter

I'm amazed that it would take anyone more than a day. I'd charge £150 and be loading the van up to go home at 2pm after an 8.30 start. I'm not greedy with kitchen splashbacks as they usually get your foot in the door for bigger and better work. Kitchen splashbacks are often testers for the tiler before they start a bathroom in my experience.
 
P

prceramics

I have a question for all the people that would take more than a day on the kitchen in question. Why? The walls are good not newly plastered but in good condition. It's only 4.50m2 and as it goes a verry easy little job.
Because I never grout the same day unless using rapid
 
Q

Qwerty

I have a question for all the people that would take more than a day on the kitchen in question. Why? The walls are good not newly plastered but in good condition. It's only 4.50m2 and as it goes a verry easy little job.

Because I have OCD and slow as hell!!! ;)
Honestly, it's because I always Silicon the following day.
 
O

Old Mod

I have a question for all the people that would take more than a day on the kitchen in question. Why? The walls are good not newly plastered but in good condition. It's only 4.50m2 and as it goes a verry easy little job.
Perhaps it's not necessarily about speed [MENTION=7444]deanotile[/MENTION] maybe more of a question demographics or geographic's and what kind of work we're used to, don't u think?
I definitely agree with rossy, new build developments require that kinda completion time. Some situations, your timetable would be correct. In others, from MY personal experience I'd disagree. Based on the average kind of work I do. I'm not saying my kind of work is any better or more important than anyone else's, on the contrary. It's just the conditions I'm used to working in. If it was part of a major refit, I will guarantee it will require some kind of makin good first, WITHOUT fail. If a designer is involved, which is 95% of the time, they'll either require some impossible setting out perimeters or the use of some weird and wonderful product. And When I have to change what they've asked for, that then will need approval, and that may only take a phone or a FaceTime call. It's still time. I've waited on many occasions for designers and the such like who insist on a site visit first. And yes they all say "I'll be there within 30 mins!" Of course they are!
If it's in a occupied residence, then typically they'll expect the whole kitchen sheeted up and the work carried out as if I'm not even there. Haha I will have to work out of the back of my vehicle, all cutting will have to be done outside as will the mixing of any adhesives or grouts. In most situations that I find myself nowadays it's just not a case of walk in and smash it out! I truly don't remember the last time it was.
Coupled with I'd never use rapid on walls, unless there were special circumstances, I also wouldn't grout the same day. Most of the time they probably wouldn't even know what colour grout they wanted until they saw the tile in situ. Hence when pricing I'd allow 2 days. If it all went swimmingly and it took less time I'd be a very happy chappy and get a half day for a change or maybe even two early finishes. haha
But that's only my experience of the least 7-8 yrs.
i just don't seem to do that kind of work anymore Deano.
 
T

The D

Perhaps it's not necessarily about speed @deanotile maybe more of a question demographics or geographic's and what kind of work we're used to, don't u think?
I definitely agree with rossy, new build developments require that kinda completion time. Some situations, your timetable would be correct. In others, from MY personal experience I'd disagree. Based on the average kind of work I do. I'm not saying my kind of work is any better or more important than anyone else's, on the contrary. It's just the conditions I'm used to working in. If it was part of a major refit, I will guarantee it will require some kind of makin good first, WITHOUT fail. If a designer is involved, which is 95% of the time, they'll either require some impossible setting out perimeters or the use of some weird and wonderful product. And When I have to change what they've asked for, that then will need approval, and that may only take a phone or a FaceTime call. It's still time. I've waited on many occasions for designers and the such like who insist on a site visit first. And yes they all say "I'll be there within 30 mins!" Of course they are!
If it's in a occupied residence, then typically they'll expect the whole kitchen sheeted up and the work carried out as if I'm not even there. Haha I will have to work out of the back of my vehicle, all cutting will have to be done outside as will the mixing of any adhesives or grouts. In most situations that I find myself nowadays it's just not a case of walk in and smash it out! I truly don't remember the last time it was.
Coupled with I'd never use rapid on walls, unless there were special circumstances, I also wouldn't grout the same day. Most of the time they probably wouldn't even know what colour grout they wanted until they saw the tile in situ. Hence when pricing I'd allow 2 days. If it all went swimmingly and it took less time I'd be a very happy chappy and get a half day for a change or maybe even two early finishes. haha
But that's only my experience of the least 7-8 yrs.
i just don't seem to do that kind of work anymore Deano.
i don't agree that it is demographics or geographic. I think almost every tiler in the country has had a stint on tiling basic kitchens and I like to think I can hold my ground in any tiling situation from the very basic tiling to the high end bespoke work. You have included a lot of variables in your post but to be honest the question was quite simple how long and how much for the kitchen in my op as it is in the pic no architects no fussy customers no fancy tiling layouts jut a bread and butter bog standard kitchen splash back. Now if you do not do bog standard kitchens then more power to you but I'd find it hard to believe that a tiler that works constantly on high end jobs did not start at some point on basic bog standard jobs.
 
O

Old Mod

i don't agree that it is demographics or geographic. I think almost every tiler in the country has had a stint on tiling basic kitchens and I like to think I can hold my ground in any tiling situation from the very basic tiling to the high end bespoke work. You have included a lot of variables in your post but to be honest the question was quite simple how long and how much for the kitchen in my op as it is in the pic no architects no fussy customers no fancy tiling layouts jut a bread and butter bog standard kitchen splash back. Now if you do not do bog standard kitchens then more power to you but I'd find it hard to believe that a tiler that works constantly on high end jobs did not start at some point on basic bog standard jobs.
Omg of course I did! I cut my teeth on Barrat Housing Estates back in early 80's. And on that I agreed with rossy, u were expected to turn out 8-10m2 a day or go home. Which is what u did. To be honest I didn't even cast my mind back to that type of work. So I'll agree I may not have answered your question as you intended. Haha But I suppose that comes from our ability to have Artistic Licence in what we do for a living isn't it? Haha we answer the question we read, which is not necessarily the question that is written! Haha Pretty much in the way we tile a space in the way we like to see it done, which as we know, isn't necessarily the way the client intended! Hehe so does that make me self important, egotistical or just arrogant? I'd just go for Artistic! :thumbsup:
Apologies for not answering what u asked exactly.
 

Reply to bread and butter kitchen in the Canada Tile Advice area at TilersForums.com

Subscribe to Tilers Forums

There are similar tiling threads here

I will be tiling with 60*30 procelain tiles. They weight about 3.57kg each which is about...
Replies
2
Views
884
    • Like
First time poster here. For some context, I have a (mostly finished) tiny home with some really...
Replies
6
Views
805
Hi, I'm new to the forum and fairly new to tiling, my only previous "proper" job was my recent...
Replies
3
Views
2K
A
I'm having my kitchen renovated and the tiler came last week and did the floor tiles. They're...
Replies
5
Views
6K
Just wondering everyone's thoughts on leveling schluter curbs. I'm installing a shower kit on...
Replies
0
Views
2K

Advertisement

Thread Information

Title
bread and butter kitchen
Prefix
N/A
Forum
Canada Tile Advice
Start date
Last reply date
Replies
91

Which tile adhesive brand did you use most this year?

  • Palace

    Votes: 7 5.2%
  • Kerakoll

    Votes: 13 9.6%
  • Ardex

    Votes: 8 5.9%
  • Mapei

    Votes: 39 28.9%
  • Ultra Tile

    Votes: 16 11.9%
  • BAL

    Votes: 33 24.4%
  • Wedi

    Votes: 3 2.2%
  • Benfer

    Votes: 2 1.5%
  • Tilemaster

    Votes: 20 14.8%
  • Weber

    Votes: 18 13.3%
  • Other (any other brand not listed)

    Votes: 15 11.1%
  • Nicobond

    Votes: 7 5.2%
  • Norcros

    Votes: 3 2.2%
  • Kelmore

    Votes: 3 2.2%
Top