Customer Rip Off

[Perry]

Richards at 365 Drills thread asks a very important question whats ethical
http://www.tilersforums.com/tilers-forums-arms/9739-right-ethical-just-good-idea.html
i have noticed a lot of tilers seam to be reluctant to price jobs on a meter rate preferring a day rate is it because they are to slow or they don't know how to Price a job or possible both ? so is the customer paying to much sometimes when a slow tiler is on a day rate and therefore are they getting ripped off ete

 

[uug197h]

we do not use day rate, but it can benefit the customers if you have a good day and get a lot done any way its not how fast or slow you can do the job its how good it is customers don't mind paying if its a good job. if the jobs good then the customer is not getting ripped off, as there paying for a good job not speed, day rate can be help full if there are problems like removing tiles and the plaster falls off the wall (we've all been there) if you price the job you can try to account for that but if its day rate then your covered,

 

[DHTiling]

If you are pricing commercial jobs then fair enough .
But domestic work is totally different.....some jobs are straight forward , so you can price no probs and then you get jobs that are more intricate to do.

I take each job on it's own merit and take it from there....and surely every one deserves a minimum Day's wage before even leaving the house.

You cant turn up to say a 3mtr kitchen splash-back and just charge for 3mtrs of tiling....

I know some of the new comers to tiling are slower so as for pricing for the days it has took them then YES! i agree , the job should be charged on how long it should take a competent tiler to do it and not a speed merchant who just throws them on or some one who is very slow.

Also if the customer is happy then that counts as well , but tilers who over charge will just fall to the side as they will not get regular work on the domestic market.

Good tilers can charge more i know but i too have noticed some outrageous prices getting quoted as well........

But getting back to the point in hand , i don't think you can price domestic work like you do commercial.......

 

[Fekin]

i have noticed a lot of tilers seam to be reluctant to price jobs on a meter rate preferring a day rate is it because they are to slow or they don't know how to Price a job or possible both ? so is the customer paying to much sometimes when a slow tiler is on a day rate and therefore are they getting ripped off ete

To suggest people only price up on day rates because they are either slow or they don't know how to price up a job is a bit off the mark.

Who's to say what the exact method should be to price up a job then ?, you ?

So going by this then, if you turned up to price up a 2 sqm splashback in 10x10cm tiles cutting around 6 or 7 sockets and around an extractor hood you'd charge by the sqm, say £20 psqm or whatever :huh2:

I know I wouldn't and that's for sure, and no, Im not a slow tiler, and I would like to think I have been pricing up jobs long enough to know how I need to price them.

Surely, each job has to be priced up on it's own merits and nothing else, though for people who are stuck in their ways and price by the sqm only for everything, then let them, if that's what they want to do.

 

[monty]

Well said fekin mate....

 

[robbo]

Totally agree with Dave and Fekin

 

[TilingLogistics]

When I first started tiling I priced a bathroom up at about £400 from memory. It took me 6 days because I was slow and wanted to do a brilliant job. The bloke next door asked me if I would do his as well and I said yes. The houses looked identical from the outside and in my frustration because the bloke next door kept bothering me I just said I would do his for the same price. Imagine my horror when I walked in a week later to be greeted by two dormer ceilings to be tiled in his bathroom. I learned my lesson there and then and to this day I have never priced a job up without seeing it. Every job to me is worth what I think I want to earn and if I can't get the price I walk.

This includes what I do now i.e. Grinding, Polishing and Honing no two floors are ever the same.

Kev

 

[Perry]

hold on Feks perhaps i worded it wrong i don't disagree with Dave just asking a question i also charge day rate sometimes it also works the other way if a customer gets a good fast tiler is the tiler getting ripped off just a debateete

 

[Gazzer]

Each job is different. I like to price per M2 but there are times when the area to be tiled is tricky and it would mean losing money if i were to charge per m2. In that case i would charge day rate and explain why to the client.

 

[CLAYS TILES]

going on wot i have read on here, can u tell me if you decided to go on m2, would you charge £20m2 (eg)for 3m2 of tiles & m2 (£)for 7 sockets too or am i guessing wrong here?
:huh2:
me personnelly i charge & day rate plus half day if i think it might take a couple of days (2nd day being the grouting out) i never price on how many sockets etc?
its not till i've done the jobs i get told how cheap i charge! (but then if i quote higher i don't get the jobs) wtf??
:furious3:

 

[Perry]

no i wouldn't charge a metre rate on a kitchen i would give them a price, i think this will be my last thread lol

 

[enduro]

Did a kitchen last Friday, and Saturday morning i charged £300 and it was 4sqm. Got another one next Friday 3sqm behind a Aga its got A shelf and a old bread oven in the wall quoted £400 as its very awkward tiling behind a Aga and got the job, if i was ripping people off they wouldnt use me...i get loads of these type jobs

 

[White Room]

Where's the thanks thing what's happening

 

[DHTiling]

temporarily disabled.........

 

[Fekin]

no i wouldn't charge a metre rate on a kitchen i would give them a price, i think this will be my last thread lol

Misunderstanding then, I thought you were saying people who only priced up a job on day rates was a bit thick or slow :lol:

I would guess there are a lot of tilers who do charge by the day and are slow, wether because their new or just ... slow.. and yeah they will be charging some customers more than what others would charge, but I can't see them being able to do this with every customer they have, and will in the end lose customers because they are charging more for for doing a job that others will do in less time.