Decoupling Blah blah blah

[J Sid]

I’ve lifted tiles off ditra/Dural and imo they come up too easy off the plastic (fully bedded and back buttered and licked by the customers cat)
Try lifting one off tm, it’s stuck right good, and imo it needs to be stuck right good and not like it is to the plastic.
Tm is the dogs danglies

it's not meant to stick the the mat, if it's stuck it isn't working as an uncoupling membrane

 

[widler]

it's not meant to stick the the mat, if it's stuck it isn't working as an uncoupling membrane

Ofcoarse its meant to stick to it , the matting works from underneath with the fleece lining .
But im not arsed , i like tm, i like my tiles to be stuck to something

 

[J Sid]

I bow to your superior knowledge @widler

 

[widler]

I bow to your superior knowledge @widler

I expect more off you julian, at least a write up off the net from schulter explaining why the tile shouldn’t stick to the matting , come on, ive a day off i need some entertainment

 

[J Sid]

e) Adhesive properties
Due to the bonding of the anchoring fleece into the thin-bed adhesive on the underside and the mechanical anchoring of the adhesive in the cut back cavities, Schlüter®-DITRA 25 achieves a good adhesion of the tile covering to the substrate

 

[Bill]

e) Adhesive properties
Due to the bonding of the anchoring fleece into the thin-bed adhesive on the underside and the mechanical anchoring of the adhesive in the cut back cavities, Schlüter®-DITRA 25 achieves a good adhesion of the tile covering to the substrate

Yes but that doesn't explain how these systems work.

For a mat to work - something has to provide the allowance of movement and as Widler says, it is more than likely the fleece.

Ditra used to have linear grooves now it has squares - very similar to dural's idea of rounds - both systems work.

I like all the mats that I have tried.

Bal, Mapei, TM, Ditra, Dural, Idrabuild Tex, OEM of the Dural system.

 

[J Sid]

 

[widler]

Have yku taken a tile up off ditra julian ? Its easy , i have no problem in people using it, but i prefere the tm stuff , same job, works excellently and tiles stick to it without this anchor.

 

[J Sid]

I have Craig, and yes tiles will come up but not so easily that it concerns me.
the TM uncoupling isn't the same. Yes it uncouples, but that's all it does. No vapor barrier and not a waterproofing membrane (I don't think, but not used it)
the TM uncoupling works differently, you stick it to floor and stick tiles to it, the uncoupling come from the way the sheet is made up I believe, in layers.

 

[Flintstone]

Totally different principles and uses a cavity mat and a full uncoupling mat like ditra and dural. The simple fact is they work and that's that. The adhesive locks In to ditra and dural and if a crack appears it gets dealt with by the mat within its own cavity. Lifting a tile the next day may be easy but after your adhesive has cured it's not easy. A tile isn't going to come loose on its own .

 

[widler]

I agree they work , i just prefere tm to ditra,ive never been a follower of fashion, when everome wore lacoste i wore la croc, it did the same thing but at a fraction of the price

 

[Balloo]

Ditra mat. What do people think ? Its been around a long time. Some of you were not even tiling
when it came out. Is it better than the rest? Is it a good price? Is it any good ?I have put this on the other page

Its good but there are other products that are every bit as good, in some situations cement boards are better though

 

[Tile Fix Direct]

We sell over 90,000 sq m a year and don't get any problems!

 

[Simon Dale]

We sell over 90,000 sq m a year and don't get any problems!

Thats not much lol. Ive heard the price is going up by around 5% ? Imo it should be coming down in price as its been around for soooooo long

 

[Tile Fix Direct]

Yes, the price has gone up. Money, lovely money.....