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I am putting this in here as its part of a court case where the builder has asked Don Slade from the tile association to be an expert witness in a court case against a tiler ,the case is finishing tomorrow and the buider called me today to hgive me a brief outline of how the proceedings went,
first a backgrund of the job
1000 x 1000 tiles tiled to the ground floor of a house in cockfosters rd, hadley wood I wont mention the tiling contractors name albeit he is very experienced and does deliver a top finish to his work but uses dot and dab as his method of fixing,
his last 3 jobs have failed for this builder but this job was used as a test case and the bulkder is trying to recover £30,000 pounds to replace the floor
so 1m x 1m tiles on fibre re-inforced screed with wet system ufh as I say the tile association have supplied a report and Don slade appeared in court where he was cross examined by the defence barrister ,when he was asked if dot and dab was a satisfactory method of fixing he replied its not the best method but it is an acceptable method, when asked if it caused the failure of the floor he replied it wasnt but may have been a contributing factor asked when the tiles should have had a 100% solid bed he replied 80-100% is recommended and at the coverage you could drive a forklift over but 50 % is okay as the adhesive strength is pro rata to which the defence barrister said so you could drive half a fork lift over which he agredd ,his final reply was that in 30 years of fixing experience he had never seen a failure that has been caused by dot and dab fixing
The contractor has claimed thermal shock which has caused the failure there is no more evidence allowed to be submitted at this stage and the judge makes his decision tomorrow ,which will be very interesting for all in the industry ,
The bulider who now uses me as his tiler is going to forward me the report and will be forwarding me the transcript from the court case as this is all second hand information i am relaying from the telephone call we had this morning ,the builder feels like he has been kicked in the balls by the tile association who are supposed to be trying to eliminate the cowboys out of the tiling industry and it seems are now endorsing dot and dab as a method of fixing on underfloor heating,please can we keep this in the Trusted advisors forum until after the court case is finished
first a backgrund of the job
1000 x 1000 tiles tiled to the ground floor of a house in cockfosters rd, hadley wood I wont mention the tiling contractors name albeit he is very experienced and does deliver a top finish to his work but uses dot and dab as his method of fixing,
his last 3 jobs have failed for this builder but this job was used as a test case and the bulkder is trying to recover £30,000 pounds to replace the floor
so 1m x 1m tiles on fibre re-inforced screed with wet system ufh as I say the tile association have supplied a report and Don slade appeared in court where he was cross examined by the defence barrister ,when he was asked if dot and dab was a satisfactory method of fixing he replied its not the best method but it is an acceptable method, when asked if it caused the failure of the floor he replied it wasnt but may have been a contributing factor asked when the tiles should have had a 100% solid bed he replied 80-100% is recommended and at the coverage you could drive a forklift over but 50 % is okay as the adhesive strength is pro rata to which the defence barrister said so you could drive half a fork lift over which he agredd ,his final reply was that in 30 years of fixing experience he had never seen a failure that has been caused by dot and dab fixing
The contractor has claimed thermal shock which has caused the failure there is no more evidence allowed to be submitted at this stage and the judge makes his decision tomorrow ,which will be very interesting for all in the industry ,
The bulider who now uses me as his tiler is going to forward me the report and will be forwarding me the transcript from the court case as this is all second hand information i am relaying from the telephone call we had this morning ,the builder feels like he has been kicked in the balls by the tile association who are supposed to be trying to eliminate the cowboys out of the tiling industry and it seems are now endorsing dot and dab as a method of fixing on underfloor heating,please can we keep this in the Trusted advisors forum until after the court case is finished