Floor Fail.

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

Been tiling other parts of this house and started ripping this floor up. Had been laid by a tiler for the current owner. Not sure how long ago. Some tiles had come loose and a crack had formed in another. What a suprised I got when I took the tiles up.

The pic is a round table top, bits of old kitchen unit and all screws together. Topped with 6 mm ply which was pinned in a fee places with panel pins. On top of chip board but the table was directly under the ply and filling a gap in the floor.
Then once the chip board floor was up. The joist are just sitting loose on cement blocks. They fall short of either walls. Lol. Unreal

 

[LM]

That's one of the worst I've seen. In fact if you didn't have pics you could be forgiving for thinking that the story was made up for full effect, Shocking!
Was it really a 'tiler' that did that (firing squad required) or was it a drastically poor attempt at a bit of diy?

 

[dave l and l]

thats shocking. take it the customer got a fright when you showed them

 

[White Room]

I'm speechless

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

The customer was out for lunch, she was a tad upset but said she wasn't suprised. ... then she said why didn't the tiler sort it the last time....! No idea.
The loose joist are mint. There's a cast cement block at the bottom of the stairs. The joist have been rested in it while it was wet and left loose then placed on loose cent blocks on the other side of the room/hall. But to short to hit the wall by about 3".!

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

I feel really sorry for as she a lovely woman and very understanding.

 

[LM]

This is incredible

 

[Kyle Knowles]

We often call builder's for there bad tiling this looks like a tiler who's a bad builder ....

 

[LM]

Now that's what you call a floating floor

 

[Kyle Knowles]

The 3x3 fence posts not even 4x2 as joists

 

[Kyle Knowles]

More importantly how do u plan of rectify the problem and u frame the room out with 4x2 fixed with them star head frame fixings and use nail on joist hangers and give her a proper floor ?

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

Thought I'd just get the panel pins out...!

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

The problem lies with the cement block at the base of the stairs. And at the front door. The door cement is cast from outside in and carries a fair bit in, all levels suit the 3x3. You access the kitchen, stairs and sitting room and otside all from this hall area. It's like it's been added on later to the house but made to look as old. The first few layer of the wall are 60s brick but exterior made to look a lot area area and you can see the timber looks newish. Open to ideas.

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

Was planning to cut into this blocks of cement and fit the joist and set the blocks, noggins and as you say @Kyle Knowles hangers etc but need to have at least a part floor down for the evening for them.to use, so need the blocks set. Any ideas around cement mix.

 

[Kyle Knowles]

Was planning to cut into this blocks of cement and fit the joist and set the blocks, noggins and as you say @Kyle Knowles hangers etc but need to have at least a part floor down for the evening for them.to use, so need the blocks set. Any ideas around cement mix.

Travis perkins sell fast setting cement it's rock hard in about 2 hours

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

Long time since I've been to Travis, that's the job. Get them blocks set for the new joists.
Cheers.

 

[gamma38]

Or postcrete. Sets in minutes.

 

[LM]

Would it be possible to scrap the joists, infill with compressed hard core, DPM, 100mm insulation, screed, green screed adhesive and tile?

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

I offered a solution like that and she said she had enough of living in building site. Think it must must have took sometime to get to where there at with it now. Which is nice ecept for this part. Also the guy mention moving to Yorkshire a little while back.

 

[LM]

I offered a solution like that and she said she had enough of living in building site. Think it must must have took sometime to get to where there at with it now. Which is nice ecept for this part. Also the guy mention moving to Yorkshire a little while back.

Pity, it'd be her quickest and most solid solution.

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

I hear ya fella. The mention of it sent her grey! Maybe a bad experiance or something

 

[LM]

I hear ya fella. The mention of it sent her grey! Maybe a bad experiance or something

Put her at ease, even show her this thread. It may sound more disruptive to her because she doesn't understand it all. It would be in her best interest to screed it, if possible.

 

[WetSaw]

Nice trim around the mat well though!!

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

Thats going. It was to stay!