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Andy Allen

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don't really get the leaving feed back on just a quotion, his day rate is high, and unless you could afford him you wouldnt use him, but its just a quote, you get more quotes as we keep telling peeps on here, then you make an informed choice who to go with. but he hasnt actually done anything, apart from give a quote......or am i missing something?
 
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Mike

interesting points int his thread which relate to our advice and our bsinesses on here

tanking kits for 1........if you can do the install without a tanking kit which you can and many do why are we advising them and speccing them on jobs sometimes even stipulating that they must be installed as part of our guarantee of workmanship terms ?

that is what this installer has done he has said as part of his install he wants to install a liner.....which he doesnt have to i agree but it still makes it a safer long term install if he does this

would the tilers and installers on here be happy if every customer they tried to sell a tanking kit to left slanderous remarks about them?
there's a big difference between supplying the customer something you believe is a necessity e.g. a tanking kit and telling them that their flue is faulty (when it's not) and trying to sell them a flue at an extortionate rate and a day rate that would keep me very happy for the week. yes i want to earn as much money as possible but i could'nt sleep at night if i charged a customer anywhere near as much as that. this guy obviously works on the principle of milking the punter for whatever he can and knows he'll probably never see them ever again
 

kilty55

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it doesnt state anywhere on here that the flue or chimney was faulty

as far as im aware it only says he was going to install a liner on the job,he is well within his rights to do that for the reasons i stated above i.e a chimney may well be in good interior condition at the time of install but there is a very small risk without maintenence programme ie a sweep to remove tar and ash build ups over time that there could be a risk of fire from not installing further down line albeit a small one

im sure most of the guys who install these daily dont bother putting liners in if the chimneys are in good nick...thats up to them

ill repeat myself if i was an installer i would be looking to install liners as well

that way i could sleep in my bed knowing 100 percent that job was left safe

whatever this guys charges is none of my anyone elses business,its his business and hes running one
if he wanst to lose work as hes too dear then thats his issue but you cant bad mouth businesses because they were too dear if you didnt use them.

all this guy has said is you need a liner for that installation

he is allowed to do that as he has been asked to spec a job to his standard of install
 

kilty55

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i agree mike i wouldnt pay 900 quid a day for a tradesman........and thats where it ends

the thing is boiler installs the guys can make serious money...possibly as much as that quoted if you break down the work and if its an easy install for them

they are the ones with the qualifications for the job ,i dont agree it should be as dear as that and id love to get the plumbers bill down a bit;) but thats as far as it goes

my only gripe with this is the way the tradesman has been left a negative unwarranted comment as he can charge what he likes and its the reason we have the freedom to get as many quotes as we like

you cant get the quotes then crucify the dearest one im afraid,that is in my book wrong
 
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Mike

but i thought the feedback was for just that, to 'feedback' with your encounter with the tradesman? in this case the 'customer' comments on the extortionate daily rate of the plumber and the price he was charging for the flue liner. maybe there is somewhere on there for him to reply too but i wonder if he'll want to.
 
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do you think £900 is a fair rate to charge a customer for a days work? would you like a tradesman to charge your elderly mum or young daughter that? i know i certainly wouldn't like it. we're all allowed our opinions on here and mine is that this guy is a crook. i just hope nobody gets duped by this guy.

I think you're missing the point Mike.... He's not Duping, conning or misleading anyone. He's been upfront with his quote and his charges. The customer thought he was too expensive, so chose not to use him and that should be the end of it! I'm by far the most expensive tiler in my area. I give my quote to the customer and they make the decision to use me or not... Does that make me a crook or a Conman......?


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kilty55

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to be honest mike most feedback i have seen if not all of it on websites etc if for jobs done,what they thought of the install

fair enough leavin a comment if the guy was rude or aggresive or something

hes only real crime seems to be giving a high price and saying he wanted to put in a liner i dont think that warrants what hes been given

i guess that is another debate;) please no more lol ,should customers be leaving feedback after getting several quotes on who they thought was trying to rip them off with the highest price ...god help us or god help me possibly;)

i dont think thats fair just my slant on it
 

kilty55

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if you google this company they come up with a good looking website which explains about there business

it seems they own a showroom and also employ staff including trainees/apprentices

if this is the case its no wonder the price was different,there over heads will be completely different to a tradesman operating from home with a van only to run.

paints a different picture imo
 
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Mike

hey i was on a job today and the joiner was taking all timber peices home in bags as he has a burner...says he saves a fortune with it!

pebbs gimmy that dudes number;) not the dear one mind;)
my brother has one too, i keep any offcuts and worktops i take out for him, he says they're great to burn
 
What an interesting thread/debate. Over here that 900 quid equates to $1800 for a day!!!:yikes:
Imo you are on review from the moment you pick up the phone. If this guy quoted a family member and they unwittingly accepted the quote because they knew no better, right or wrong I wont apologise for breaking his legs:90:.
He and ourselves a supposed to be professionals and sometimes we have to accept that some people just dont have a clue. In these cases we are the only ones between them and getting ripped off, of what is probably a year or two of their life savings.
Just quoteing this absurd amount is tantamount to extortion when the client doesnt know any better.
Get more quotes you say, sure fair comment BUT some people just dont want too much bother or they are shy of strangers in their house. Especially the elderly. This guy would would rob them of what they have little of and that deserves the approprate feedback.
He may not be breaking any laws but morally he at least deserves a good hard slap. Just one. Open palm mind you.:mad2:
 

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