glazed porcelain,

[Mr Tiler]

went to quote a job today guys glazed porcelain on a concrete conservatory floor. now is it best to seal up these type of tiles before or after tiling or can it be left until after I have grouted? thanks

 

[The D]

you do not seal glazed porcelain

 

[Mr Tiler]

polished sorry deano

 

[charlie1]

You need to find out who makes these. Some polished porcelains have nano fill (I think that's the term)... If they have been nano filled then no need for sealing. From recollection, all tile giant polished porcelains require sealing. Ctd range (eagle) don't require it. You need to contact manufacturer or take advice from tile shop where they where purchased.

 

[Mr Tiler]

its topps buddy and they do require sealing the customer has already enquired. I would just like some advice as she actually wants the grout sealing too so will I be sealing it before and after grouting?or is it best to seal the tile before even installation? also she is hoping to have a beige grout will the sealer effectively protect it from discolouration? if not she will go for a grey colour, thanks mate

 

[charlie1]

To be on the safe side, seal them first. It's not how I usually do it but I work clean. Then after you lay them, give them another seal covering the grout too, won't do any harm. I usually go over the lot with a buffer at the end, brings them up really shiny.

 

[charlie1]

its topps buddy and they do require sealing the customer has already enquired. I would just like some advice as she actually wants the grout sealing too so will I be sealing it before and after grouting?or is it best to seal the tile before even installation? also she is hoping to have a beige grout will the sealer effectively protect it from discolouration? if not she will go for a grey colour, thanks mate

i don't think anything will protect grout from discolouration on a floor tbh mate, especially lighter colours

 

[Mr Tiler]

thanks a lot charly I wish I had known about the light colours I thought sealer would do the job of keeping the grout nice and clean il tell her ive been advised that it wont help much thanks matey, I work pretty cleanly I mean will I be ok NOT sealing them beforehand as long as any addy residue is wiped away quickly? or will it instantly seep into the paws? cheers

 

[Mr Tiler]

not being lazy here guys, if it needs doing it will be done. but I keep the tile face pretty clean as I go along so if it is ok to be wiped off as I do get some addy on the face as I am not a tiling god, yet! lol cheers

 

[Andy Allen]

I would lay them and seal them before grouting, you can get a grout sealer in a can that you spray on the grout joints when dry, don't no what its like as ive never used it..

 

[Mr Tiler]

I would lay them and seal them before grouting, you can get a grout sealer in a can that you spray on the grout joints when dry, don't no what its like as ive never used it..

would you seal them before tiling?

 

[Andy Allen]

would you seal them before tiling?

no after tiling, .....tile, seal then grout, most polished pors isn't that porous apart from the cheap crap from b & poo.....just work clean....to seal them apply the sealer and wait for in to soak in as per instructions then buff off the excess with a fluff free cloth then grout..

 

[charlie1]

Mr T, don't worry too much about sealing... Just seal them! There are bigger challenges with this job though that you will need to pay close attention too. IMO, polished porcelain is one of the most challenging tiles you will fit. Prep is key, you need to get that floor flaaaaat!!

 

[Mr Tiler]

thank you guys, the floor has carpet tiles stuck down I pulled one up and the floor looks nice and flat but we will see on monday if i have landed the job. im guessing I am going to have the same issue if not more with my cutter as my last job what do you think? that was glazed porcelain though. was reading a thread earlier about sealing i think im gonna go with the sponge rather than roller

 

[charlie1]

thank you guys, the floor has carpet tiles stuck down I pulled one up and the floor looks nice and flat but we will see on monday if i have landed the job. im guessing I am going to have the same issue if not more with my cutter as my last job what do you think? that was glazed porcelain though. was reading a thread earlier about sealing i think im gonna go with the sponge rather than roller

You need to do more to asses how flat the floor is, did you put a 6ft level over it?

 

[Andy Allen]

that's what I use on p/p a sponge or cloth.....just smear it on the tile no need to puddle it on there..

 

[cam_low]

this will be a challenge for you if they are rectified !!!

 

[Rossymcg]

Are you self leveling 1st tea bag, what may look flat eith flexible carpet tiles doesn't mean it's flat for polished porkies, find the highest point on the floor with your 6ft level.

 

[Andy Allen]

what size are they..?

 

[Mr Tiler]

600x600 same as i laid in the shop last week. now i am worried i havnt quoted correctly for this job

 

[charlie1]

this will be a challenge for you if these are rectified !!!

Yep! In conservatory with acute light source sun up/ down.

 

[Mr Tiler]

Are you self leveling 1st tea bag, what may look flat eith flexible carpet tiles doesn't mean it's flat for polished porkies, find the highest point on the floor with your 6ft level.

no mate i will be checking the level when i get in and take the floor up, i havnt quoted for leveller though

 

[Andy Allen]

how many square meters is it and how much did you quote..?

pm me if you cant post prices..

 

[charlie1]

no mate i will be checking the level when i get in and take the floor up, i havnt quoted for leveller though

How can you price without knowing fully what's involved??... Never mind, there's a lesson to be learned here for you, let's get the job first then we shall talk you through it.

 

[Andy Allen]

How can you price without knowing fully what's involved??... Never mind, there's a lesson to be learned here for you, let's get the job first then we shall talk you through it.

to be fair iv'e priced jobs when carpets are down I just tell there there may be an extra cost if floor needs levelling...