glazed porcelain,

[Mr Tiler]

How can you price without knowing fully what's involved??... Never mind, there's a lesson to be learned here for you, let's get the job first then we shall talk you through it.

well i walked in expecting an empty conservatory but it was fully furnished with a fridge and a freezer, table chairs the lot even had to move the cat that was lying in a dog basket to measure the room lol

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yeh its inexperience of quoting kicking in i suppose mate

 

[Martyn Leeds]

An impregnator for porcelain

1st sealing job I did, I sealed them before fitting, but its rare that you'll have the room to lay them all out and seal them. So, fit, clean, seal, grout, seal

How many metres we talking

 

[Mr Tiler]

11.6 mate

 

[charlie1]

well i walked in expecting an empty conservatory but it was fully furnished with a fridge and a freezer, table chairs the lot even had to move the cat that was lying in a dog basket to measure the room lol

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yeh its inexperience of quoting kicking in i suppose mate

In these situations, I always price on the heavy side just in case! I hate having to put my prices up during a job. So, worst case scenario, you need to buy 5-6 bag slc and 2 hrs of your time to sort it out (big deal). Floor might be bang on if your v lucky!

 

[Mr Tiler]

yeh i want to be a good tradesman i don't want to turn to her and say ''your going to have to pay me an extra blah blah'' but on the other hand i managed to half written quote from topps by going elsewhere so i should be ok

 

[Rossymcg]

In these situations, I always price on the heavy side just in case! I hate having to put my prices up during a job. So, worst case scenario, you need to buy 5-6 bag slc and 2 hrs of your time to sort it out (big deal). Floor might be bang on if your v lucky!

But that's another £100+ on the job if it needs self leveling, if the floor is up and down then extra adhesive is required to butter hitting the pocket,
tea bag the 6ft level is your best friend when pricing and consider cuts, cuts and holes can add an extra day on to a job plus the cost of hole cutters blades etc,
people tend to learn very quickly when it comes to pricing

 

[charlie1]

But that's another £100+ on the job if it needs self leveling, if the floor is up and down then extra adhesive is required to butter hitting the pocket,
tea bag the 6ft level is your best friend when pricing and consider cuts, cuts and holes can add an extra day on to a job plus the cost of hole cutters blades etc,
people tend to learn very quickly when it comes to pricing

yes, but I'd sooner spend ethe extra 100 on slc rather than a building up adhesive, esp with PP

 

[Dougs Third Go]

make sure the tiles are bone dry before you seal them, otherwise you'll seal moisture in and get hazing.

 

[Rossymcg]

yes, but I'd sooner spend ethe extra 100 on slc rather than a building up adhesive, esp with PP

i know thats my point Tea Bag has gave a price with out considering the actual work involved, he's gona be 1er down before he starts, if he picks up the tiles with addy its going to take twice as long and twice as much addy,
Tea bag get on to the client and state your price is excluding slc, the price will go up by 100 (or what ever it is you need to charge to cover your time and the slc) if it does need doing and youll show him/her before you commence why and where it needs slc due o the fact that you couldnt fully assess the floor due to the room being full,
I'd also pop round the day before to slc so i can start to lay straight away in the morning.

 

[Peter]

SLC can be very hard to get right if you're inexperienced. Have seen customers/trades making a floor much worse trying to 'help' the tiler by levelling a floor.

 

[White Room]

SLC can be very hard to get right if you're inexperienced. Have seen customers/trades making a floor much worse trying to 'help' the tiler by levelling a floor.

Your right about the slc, saw a builder self level onto ufh....he forgot to tape/glue the wires down, wire poking up everywhere:mad2:

 

[Mr Tiler]

SLC can be very hard to get right if you're inexperienced. Have seen customers/trades making a floor much worse trying to 'help' the tiler by levelling a floor.

I have seen it been done too mate lol. well ive been told a few times the more you mess with the stuff the more chance of mucking it up, I would just give it a spread and roll over with the spiked roller. no call back today so im guessing I didn't land it in the end anyway as she said she would let me know by tmoz. oh well its a little bit relieving tbh can carry on trying to find the smaller jobs lol. cheers

 

[Gazzer]

I have seen it been done too mate lol. well ive been told a few times the more you mess with the stuff the more chance of mucking it up, I would just give it a spread and roll over with the spiked roller. no call back today so im guessing I didn't land it in the end anyway as she said she would let me know by tmoz. oh well its a little bit relieving tbh can carry on trying to find the smaller jobs lol. cheers

Do you have a spiked roller ?

 

[rj1884]

Sorry Mt T for hijacking this thread. Sir ramic, in relation to your question. Would you always use a spike roller on all the floors you self level and what could be the consequences for not getting rid of the air bubbles. Just wandering as I'm self levelling a floor soon. About 6.5m2.
Many thanks

 

[Gazzer]

No mate, There is no need when tiling over.

 

[Mr Tiler]

Do you have a spiked roller ?

no mate but I will be purchasing one when the time comes

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Sorry Mt T for hijacking this thread. Sir ramic, in relation to your question. Would you always use a spike roller on all the floors you self level and what could be the consequences for not getting rid of the air bubbles. Just wandering as I'm self levelling a floor soon. About 6.5m2.
Many thanks

that is ok buddy I have done my fair share lol

 

[Mr Tiler]

No mate, There is no need when tiling over.

I was told it has to be done when the slc isn't being laid very thick i.e 5-10mm Neale I thought that was the case

 

[Dougs Third Go]

I was told it has to be done when the slc isn't being laid very thick i.e 5-10mm Neale I thought that was the case

after initial mix I let it stand in the bucket for a couple of minutes to let air bubbles surface, then give it a low speed mix for 30 seconds. That seems to get rid of the air bubbles.

 

[Rossymcg]

after initial mix I let it stand in the bucket for a couple of minutes to let air bubbles surface, then give it a low speed mix for 30 seconds. That seems to get rid of the air bubbles.

Me to but I always shake the mixing bucket, the bubbles surface quickly then and last little mix I do manually to prevent paddle adding more air, just my way maybe wrong but it puts my mind at ease

 

[Rossymcg]

I was told it has to be done when the slc isn't being laid very thick i.e 5-10mm Neale I thought that was the case

I've never used a spiked roller, seen them used by floor layers but I've never felt the need, am I missing out on something?

 

[Gazzer]

You are not missing out at all. The roller may give you a better finish but a good levelling compound as produced today by most companies will give a good enough finish for tiling to as long as you prepare, mix , pour and trowel over correctly.

 

[Peter]

I paid £40 for a spiked roller expecting it to turn me into a slc wizard. £40 down the drain.

 

[Diggy]

Had a spiked roller for a while now , needs to be the long spike type though. Used it yesterday over some DEVI, flat as pancake. Not the answer to all slc jobs ie when bays are needed but i wouldnt be without it now tbh.
Diggy

 

[White Room]

Tried a spike roller on slc once and that was it, used to do 2 part resin floors and the spikey was used to get rid of the air bubbles.....