Gulf Stone Quartz Tile -10mm Or 12mm And Type Of Grout

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Reading the Gulfstone installation is recommends using Latex based adhesive, but have also heard many people install these with Ultimate S2.

When the old tiles are removed from the concrete floor, i will want the floor primed - can anyone suggest a good primer?
 
Thanks for the photos Lee. Just ordered some from you now to test and see what they are like.

Do you recommend sealing the tile before grouting? i know that the gulfstone say that they are sealed already but do you suggest doing these again?
Gulf stone are the only quartz I will fit.
I have always fitted them with an S1 addy & never ever had a problem.
The ultimate Lee talks about is one of the best adhesives on the market.
I got asked from my local tile giant to test Mapei granirapid 2 part addy & I will never use it again, horrible stuff.

Is that the one that takes ages to go off and the liquid is sbr ?
 
Reading the Gulfstone installation is recommends using Latex based adhesive, but have also heard many people install these with Ultimate S2.

When the old tiles are removed from the concrete floor, i will want the floor primed - can anyone suggest a good primer?
I phoned Weber technical years ago & they told me that their rapid spf would be fine to use on gulfstone Quartz, CTD also told me the same,
This is an s1 addy.

Use an SBR or Acrylic primer & you will be fine.
 
Have they removed the "Use Latex Based Adhesive " from the front of the box Lee?
I noticed you didn't photo the top of the box!!!

Hi @JulianSidney it does state that on the box, correct.

however, i believe that TM have indeed written a spec for fixing this Gulfstone to your good self, why not upload the letter to the forum so we can put this to bed.

Ulitmate is perfectly fine to use with Gulfstone.
 
Hi @JulianSidney it does state that on the box, correct.

however, i believe that TM have indeed written a spec for fixing this Gulfstone to your good self, why not upload the letter to the forum so we can put this to bed.

Ulitmate is perfectly fine to use with Gulfstone.
Yes Lee
Here is the reply

Morning Julian,
Many thanks for your enquiry into fixing materials for fixing Quartz Tiles.

There are a few manufacturers that recommend fixing these tiles with a 2 part adhesive and I think that a lot of this has been driven by Mapei’s recommendations of using their 2 part system. We have a lot of experience of Gulf Stone Tiles, we know the owners of Gulf Stone UK very well and in fact we were their sole supplier of adhesive for many years. We have also been involved in many projects where these tiles have been fixed.

Our experience tells us that the issues and failures associated with this type of resin agglomerated tile are largely down to moisture being prevalent below the tile, either within the adhesive or within the substrate. Moisture can cause these tiles to mis-shape and “dish” in that the corners of the tiles can curl. We have seen that the moisture within the tile adhesive can cause this, in particular when standard setting adhesives are used, because the moisture is prevalent within the adhesive for much longer than a rapid setting adhesive.

The ways to avoid this happening are to use adhesives with a low water addition and also to use adhesives with high initial bond strengths.

Our Ultimate adhesive has a very low water addition level, approximately 1 litre per 20kg lower than our other adhesives, this relates to around 20 – 25% less water. The initial bond strengths of Ultimate are also extremely good, the bond strength is considerably higher than the other adhesives in our range. For these reasons, we recommend Ultimate adhesive as our chosen adhesive for fixing resin agglomerated tiles and guarantee the product for this use. Ultimate has been our recommended adhesive for this type of tile for several years, many projects have been completed successfully using this system.

We have a 2 part adhesive within our range but do not believe that it is necessary to use a 2 part system when we have a product such as Ultimate adhesive in our range.

Just as a final note Julian, it is important that the Quartz tiles are back buttered as well as serrating the substrate in the normal way.

I hope this information assists and answers your questions,

Yours
Glynn Griffin
Technical Support
Tilemaster Adhesives Limited
Unit 4 Tomlinson Point
Tomlinson Road
Leyland, PR25 2DY

My argument is, shouldn't we us the materials / fixing method recommend by the tile manufacturers / supplier?
 
TBH, think that is a great response from TileMaster.

i shall carry on recommending Ultimate. I like the technical back up i get when recommending a company like TM.
 

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