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charlie1

I'm well aware of its moisture resistant capacity, im more interested in its anti flexing properties, id just like to add, I've called hardie tech 3 times about this and been told 3 different stories so if they don't know what it does then i don't really expect anyone else too. Also, they do claim it stiffens up a timber floor!
 
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DHTiling

FIGHT!!!!!!....
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charlie1


Deano, this is straight from their website (top of the page)...
"A 6 mm thick cement backer board for tile and stone, to be used as an alternative to plasterboard or plywood for tiling on floors, masonry walls and countertops"

Additionally, I called them (tech dept) to find out more about it and how it should be fitted and they told me that it was not suitable for floor boards, it had to be ply wood first.

I called them again and they said the opposite. (So now there are saying what it says on their web site)

I called them again yesterday to finally try to get to the bottom of what the hell this board can and can’t do, I asked "what is the benefits of fitting these boards to a timber floor", she replied, "it will stop your tiles cracking" ...that was it... very fluffy answer imo!

It was very clear to me on 2 of the 3 calls that the tech dept did not really know what the where talking about, there answers not only differed but there answers to specific questions where very fluffy / vague.

Look at their website, they are clearly claiming their boards have anti flexing properties on timber floor or you would need to plywood first then fit the hardier but they are clearly saying there boards are a replacement for plywood on a timber floor!!

I’m just trying to get to the bottom of this, do you need to plywood a timber floor first as per British standards or do these boards irradiate the need for plywood... that is the million dollar question that hardie cant even answer
 
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charlie1

Charlie, what they are saying is that it's a replacement as a tiling surface. Not a strengthening aid. Before, if you got a timber floor solid, but it was floorboards, you couldn't tile it without over boarding with ply.

then as per British standards you would still require to overboard with ply to add strength, then fit hardie?
 
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The D

Ok I just popped in to CTD and picked up the Hardie bumff
Use minimum 15mm wbp plywood or minimum 18mm T&G flooring grade chipboard.
Ensure floor satisfies requirements of local building regulators and does not deflect more than L/360for ceramic tiles and L/720 for natural stone.
Excessive flex will cause the tiled floor to crack .
Joist spacing not to exceed 600mm centres
 
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The D

So the way I use these Hardie boards is if I have a floor that is chipboard and it is free from deflection I will over board with 6mm Hardie backer board so that I have a sub-straight that is suitable to receive tiles.
If I have a chipboard floor that is not free from deflection then I remove the chipboard brace the joists and add noggins then replace the chipboard with 18mm ply then install the 6mm Hardie backer board so that I have a sub-straight that is suitable to receive tiles.
 
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charlie1

So the way I use these Hardie boards is if I have a floor that is chipboard and it is free from deflection I will over board with 6mm Hardie backer board so that I have a sub-straight that is suitable to receive tiles.
If I have a chipboard floor that is not free from deflection then I remove the chipboard brace the joists and add noggins then replace the chipboard with 18mm ply then install the 6mm Hardie backer board so that I have a sub-straight that is suitable to receive tiles.

thanks deano, you have pretty much covered it all! You know, if you ever decide to pack in the tiling you will get a job in hardie tech support no problem as you have more info on there gear than all of them i called put together. Thanks again mate!:thumbsup:
 

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