help with boarding out

[connors12345]

just about to board out a bathroom next week. i have worked out a price 3.2 m2. ply onto t and g flooring £100 labour plus mats. should do in a day easy (new) 12ml or 18ml ply????. cust supplying tiles. me adh making £20 also. does this seem fair? sink and toilet coming out with just pipes left.. i know about screwing the ply down etc... how do i go around pipes etc ??? do i cut it out square and put a piece in at the back .. and do i just put the ply under the bath a few inches or upto the bath panel??? if i put it under the bath panel would it be better to tell the plumber to higher the bath up an inch when fitting as he thinks i am going to be using 6mm ply....dont think so? do you ??? also went into ctd today and he was trying to talk me into using hardibacker board and i told him the floor was not very good,,, can i still put this down i am not 100% convinced////?????? sorry for the long post but i am sure once this job is finished that is about 10 questions answered and only a million more to get my head around
if i ever hear anyone tell me there is nothing to tiling i am going down for murder.....
thanks for your help dont be put off by the long post please answer if poss even if only one question each
thanks again flaparse

 

[brian c]

100 for plying out a 3.2m2 floor is good money if you can get it,i would have charged around50.with the ady use flexi rapidset and flexi grout,20 on materials on a floor that size is good profit,one bag of ady should be enough.10kg.Use a whole cutter for drilling hole around rads and then saw the piece of wood out and put behind pipe.PLY JUST UNDER THE BATH and get plumber to raise bath if not you will probably need to cut the panel .All the best.

 

[connors12345]

the hundred quid was for fitting the tiles and the ply. on top was £30 quid for adh ?10 for grout plus cost of ply ontop.... is 12ml ok

 

[hotburrito]

£100 to lay ply and tile?
im just starting out myself mate but for that i'd charge £140-£150 for a day rate 😕

 

[connors12345]

same here mate. new and unsure
what does everyone else think

 

[White Room]

I use hardie backer, ensure the floor board's are sound and not loose if they are secure. Put a bed of flexable ahesive onto the floor board's then lay 6mm backer boards (10mm is supposed to be the minimum for adhesive guarantee). I use 25mm turbo screws from screwfix with about 6-8 per board Then scrim the joint's wiping flexi addy into the joints. Then lay tile's.

 

[connors12345]

do you bother using the tape that u are supposedto use
i cant see them making much difference also can i just use one board for small bog or would i have to brick bond as advised

 

[hotburrito]

whats the difference in price between hardie backer and ply?

 

[connors12345]

hardi backer is £15 plus vat 1500 900 6ml
12ml ply £20 2200 1200

 

[brian c]

the hundred quid was for fitting the tiles and the ply. on top was £30 quid for adh ?10 for grout plus cost of ply ontop.... is 12ml ok

connors thats a good 140 profit for one days work which is good when starting out,i thought you charged 100 for plying out m8 so sorry for any confusion.

Yes use 12mm exterior ply and screw down every 300mm with 25mmturbo screws which you can buy at screwfix m8.

 

[White Room]

do you bother using the tape that u are supposedto use
i cant see them making much difference also can i just use one board for small bog or would i have to brick bond as advised

It bond's the joint's together and allow's a bit of flexi, and yes use one board if you can, no problem

 

[DHTiling]

Just a quick reply lads...don,t expect to get hardiebacker boards from CTD they only sell Wedi board....

 

[Holohana]

Just a quick reply lads...don,t expect to get hardiebacker boards from CTD they only sell Wedi board....

Id check with your local CTD as mine do sell Hardibacker as well as Wedi board.

 

[DHTiling]

Cheers..i have asked and asked CTD,s head office(newcastle) to stock hardie-backer boards and they said they had no intentions of stocking it....which branch do you use.?....i will get onto my local branch to see why one sells it and not the rest.....

 

[DS Tiling]

My local CTD only sells Wedi unless that has changed recently which is possible as it has moved to new premises. My understanding of using 6mm hardibacker over T+G florboards is that the substrate should have hardly any deflection so may have to be plyed first which sort of defeats the point, best to check this out with Hardie first though. I tend to opt for 12mm+ply depending on the tile size and substrate or aquapanel fixed with spf and screwed.

 

[tysfoot]

Alright guys, quoted a bathroom yesterday but the walls are out so it will need to be plyed, never done this before so i need some advice. Do i screw it to the wall or use a dot and dab technique

 

[CLAYS TILES]

Alright guys, quoted a bathroom yesterday but the walls are out so it will need to be plyed, never done this before so i need some advice. Do i screw it to the wall or use a dot and dab technique

wot no nails this time ty?
screw it m8,then you know it'll be secure!!!:whatchutalkingabout

 

[tysfoot]

is there any videos on the web of how to install. got a feeling am gonna be crap

 

[CLAYS TILES]

:hurray:

is there any videos on the web of how to install. got a feeling am gonna be crap

if your going in with that attitude m8 then expect to be crap,say to yourself this is a learning curve......... just where the bend ends is up 2u!

 

[connors12345]

ctd warrington have just started promoting hardie board within the last few days (trialing it i think

 

[macten]

Alright guys, quoted a bathroom yesterday but the walls are out so it will need to be plyed, never done this before so i need some advice. Do i screw it to the wall or use a dot and dab technique

Are you planning to ply the walls?

 

[tysfoot]

yeah i was thinking about it but beuse i have got no experience in plying the walls i didnt want to make a mess so i need a bit of advice of how to do it, cheers

 

[GazTech]

yeah i was thinking about it but beuse i have got no experience in plying the walls i didnt want to make a mess so i need a bit of advice of how to do it, cheers

Aviod ply on the walls silly....backerboards are made specifically for this purpose....Gaz

 

[DS Tiling]

I wouldn't ply walls either but just my opinion. You would be better and cheaper using pasterboard and tank out any wet areas if necessary. If the walls are solid you can dot and dab it on using dry wall adhesive. Use a straight edge and a level to keep it flat. Knauf used to have some stuff on their web site on how to do it.

 

[brian c]

same as DS Tiling,i would dot and dab plasterboard tysfoot m8,cheaper and easier,quicker and overall less hassle than plywood,incidently never heard of anyone dot and dabbing ply m8 as the walls are usually strapped and ply screwed on.If you want any advice how to do it then pm me m8,its really a piece of p***.