how do i baton on tanked walls

[EverDon Tiling]

bath in first bead of silicone then tile leaving 2mm gap fill bath with water and silicone that how its tought and thats how i've done it for years

 

[Stewart]

Guy's... You should be aware that there are quite a few makes of bath that should be installed after the room has been tiled.....


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[Polishtradesman]

Ok, but is is your point of view. For me working in new bath is a madness. I have crosses even in such a things like fitting the sink or loo and then tile around which is really ridicoules. It is not the same as wall and floor tiles, becouse in this case it is easier to cut floor tile and then cover it by bottom cut but you do not need to cut a bath. Bath is straight tile surface is flat as well it match and it is small bead of silicone, maybe wider than 2 mm but still very neat. It is all about to not work inside the bath and got same wide of bath edges which looks symmetrically. Do how you like to do but please do not try to convince my that my way is wrong. Bathrooms are usually small so i got even more work space all the time and then bath at the end all i need to do is a silicone.

 

[Polishtradesman]

Guy's... You should be aware that there are quite a few makes of bath that should be installed after the room has been tiled.....


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That is another thing - bath and then tiles onto it means bath lost its warranty.

 

[Ian]

The tiles don't actually touch the bath as there will be an expansion gap whic is filled with silicone, so it's the same as the method you use.

 

[EverDon Tiling]

Ok, but is is your point of view. For me working in new bath is a madness. I have crosses even in such a things like fitting the sink or loo and then tile around which is really ridicoules. It is not the same as wall and floor tiles, becouse in this case it is easier to cut floor tile and then cover it by bottom cut but you do not need to cut a bath. Bath is straight tile surface is flat as well it match and it is small bead of silicone, maybe wider than 2 mm but still very neat. It is all about to not work inside the bath and got same wide of bath edges which looks symmetrically. Do how you like to do but please do not try to convince my that my way is wrong. Bathrooms are usually small so i got even more work space all the time and then bath at the end all i need to do is a silicone.

not saying its wrong we all got our own way i just find it better the way i do it imo

 

[Polishtradesman]

I need to check it but i think that none of bath manufacturers advice fit the bath and then tile. I think long time ago on this forum someone wrote about losing warranty in that case.

 

[EverDon Tiling]

To be honest the bathroom i'm fitting at the minute I've even had to chisel the wall out to get the bath in i would have no chance tiling first

 

[DHTiling]

Seems to be the Bartek way or no way .

Do what works for you and let's not over analyse things.

 

[Polishtradesman]

hmm, well... Difficoulty for me, writing in this forum is that my english is not so good to express my emotions in kind and good way. I am not going to teach you which way, becosue i am not a teacher, i am still learnig and i am guest in this country, do not want to look like pighead. But honestly, for me tere is not another way to fit a bath then doing it after tiling. Did not want to be intrusive just defending my point of view as i see it reasonable and logic.

 

[Ian]

Ok, so we've had a few opinions, me included, can we return to the topic of battening a tanked wall please.

 

[hillhead]

Tank the wall.
Let dry.
Fit bath tight to wall if it's not a free standing one.
Tile Walls.
Grout.
Job done.
Lol

 

[hillhead]

Oh, silicon gap too.
By the way I have put screw and nails through tanking before.
When I remove the batton I silicon up the holes.

 

[Stef]

hmm, well... Difficoulty for me, writing in this forum is that my english is not so good to express my emotions in kind and good way. I am not going to teach you which way, becosue i am not a teacher, i am still learnig and i am guest in this country, do not want to look like pighead. But honestly, for me tere is not another way to fit a bath then doing it after tiling. Did not want to be intrusive just defending my point of view as i see it reasonable and logic.

I will agree that its each to their own when it comes to doing things, i just feel that its easier to have the bath fitted then tile to it, i think its a lot neater finish.

I will also agree with Stewart, not all baths are the same, some state tile then fit bath.

I just fitted my shower tray & it stated "Tile first" No chance i was tiling first as i feel you will get a better seal round the tray with the tile coming down onto the tray.

Polish, your doing ok with your English, you communicate better than half the peeps on here. :lol:

 

[Stef]

Same as Hillhead above regarding original thread.

 

[Polishtradesman]

Tank the wall.
Let dry.
Fit bath tight to wall if it's not a free standing one.
Jump into the bath with bucket of adhesive and wave your hand to your custumer esspecially if bath is worth few grands.
Tile Walls.
Grout.
Job done.
Lol

sorry, just a joke

 

[Muse2k8]

Tile wall
Fit bath
Book return appointment in 6 months to remove all water damaged areas due to seal failing.

Or

Fit bath
Tile to bath

 

[Polishtradesman]

No no I protest Not so far, it is not true. Belive me. None of bath manufaturer adivce to tile onto bath. I do not really understeand why you think that kind of sealing can fail. It is impossible. With compression you got lot of right but now you are wrong. I see hard to explain you but on continental europe i am sure bath losts warranty if you do this. You agreed that some of baths need to be fit after tiling so you try to convince me that their sealant gonna fail?? I was really happy when we discussed about plumbing, i saw your post very intresting but now i am not sure if you 100% sure of your comments. Nobody all over Europe tiles onto the bath (well dont know about all europe but sure that germans and polish) and no fails. Nobody works in bath. That is big mistake in my country. As i said i am guest here and not goint to change your ways but do not tell me that my fails. It is unlogic.

 

[Muse2k8]

I was just having a laugh lol

 

[John Benton]

What happens when you are fitting a bath into a corner after you have tiled and the corner is not at 90 degrees. If it runs out by 10mm do you just fill the gap with silicon?

 

[Polishtradesman]

I am wondering if profesisonals tiling teachers in craft collage in UK advice to do that??

 

[Polishtradesman]

What happens when you are fitting a bath into a corner and the corner is not at 90 degrees. If it runs out by 10mm do you just fill the gap with silicon?

Corner needs to be 90 degrees otherways it is impossible to fit bath correctly.

 

[Muse2k8]

Tbh we've always been taught to fit bath first mainly due to walls being out of sync. Sometimes you even find yourself putting part of the bath into the wall!

Probably a uk thing and were not disputing how it's done elsewhere or how reliable either method is.

 

[Alan M]

out in germany (and probably everywhere ) builders use ;large squares to layout walls etc. in th euk and ireland we just guese. iv seen 4 foot wals be out by 2". there is a garage (builder built it himself)locally that is 12" narrower on one end than the other and its only 20 foot long. in an ideal world you could do things like fit a bath after the tiles but not in most houses iv worked in

 

[White Room]

Chop a bit out of the wall.....