how do i baton on tanked walls

[Polishtradesman]

I have been tought that walls and floors before tiling should be prepared

 

[John Benton]

Tbh we've always been taught to fit bath first mainly due to walls being out of sync. Sometimes you even find yourself putting part of the bath into the wall!

Probably a uk thing and were not disputing how it's done elsewhere or how reliable either method is.

Thats what I was meaning when I said if the wall runs out. Once its tiled you cant chop into the tile, so therefore it stands to reason to fit bath first and tile around afterwards. You can lose 10mm with the tile and adhesive if the wall isn't square, and not that many are.

 

[White Room]

Sometimes there not prepared and they won't pay for it either....

 

[John Benton]

Sometimes there not prepared and they won't pay for it either....

Correct :mad2:

 

[Polishtradesman]

And that is he point, it is here like that becosue walls are really difficouldt to make them right angle and if someone does not want to pay for it, tilers are not going to do it for free. Maybe bath manufacturers should start make bath with diffrent angles hehe Anyway reality is brutal and i can understeand your point of view if walls are not really 90 degrees. However I do not understeand this way when walls got squere angle.

 

[jay]

How its done in OZ http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=aus standards on waterproofing&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CEEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.showerrepairsplus.com.au%2FShower-repairs-plus-Waterproofing-Standard.pdf&ei=XABXT_bmGeyTiQe4jqmgDQ&usg=AFQjCNGvovWzoLgBCEkwcrjB6wUQRVyQZw

 

[bobbynz]

Couldnt get that page Jay but over here the bath is always in first. Some designs demand bringing the substrate down over a rising detail. It gets siliconed and then waterproffed over that. The only time a bath is put in after tiling is when its either free standing or the cradle supports the bath around all four sides.

 

[jay]

Thats what the link showed seems to be a problem with posting links on here


http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&r...6rTGDQ&usg=AFQjCNGvovWzoLgBCEkwcrjB6wUQRVyQZw



That one works

 

[bobbynz]

Yep, thats the way. Now we just need to educate the chippies to do it properly. Usually ok, most times. Some just dont have a clue though.

 

[Fliselege]

Tile wall
Fit bath
Book return appointment in 6 months to remove all water damaged areas due to seal failing.

Well in my 7 years here and my bosses 16 years here, never been bitten on the bum with that. But then again, when we build a wet room, it is just that, a wet room, entire floor mechanical membraned which also goes 15 cm up the wall with 4cm of screed on top of that with heating cables in the middle of it, all walls covered in wedi or similar, all joints membrane stripped, from what I gather an English wetroom is what we'd call a few wet spot areas in a room if just the wet areas are membraned, so even if our silicone along the bath did fail, it pretty much wouldn't matter a jot. Don't get me wrong, it's over the top here, but I just play by the rules and it puts food on my table so I just get on with it, I still don't see a problem with fitting a bath and overlapping the rim with tiles, but it's just not done like that here, madness.
My baton holes get membraned or siliconed.

 

[Mike Mike]

I use Rubi baton stands and various length cheap aluminium spirit levels instead of wooden batons. Doesn't matter if the bubbles work accurately or not (as you check them with your good levels) as long as they're straight. Leave them up about half an hour or so then take them off and clean the adhesive off.

You can also stick a bit of masking tape on them and use them as a measuring guage to decide on setting out, and if you leave the masking tape on them when you use them as batons it makes it easier to clean them, just take the masking tape off et voila, they're clean.

 

[Mike Mike]

p.s. You can stick a couple of dabs of tile adhesive on the side of the spirit levels to give extra grip too, especially if the wall isn't perfectly flat, imagine that, a wonky wall...

 

[Dan]

Just bumping some of the older popular (sometimes not so popular) threads. Probably wont be current discussion these days but I just need to do it. So just ignore the thread if it's not current for you.