How many guys tile over chipboard floor?

[tfs]

Hey folks,

Just wanted to ask how many of guys have tiled over chipboard and been in the game long enough to honestly say there have been no comebacks.

I know some adhesives are meant to be suitable e.g. Mapei Kerraquick with the latex plus. I have never done this as I feel very cuatious about tiling over chipboard without ply sheeting first so I am very interested to hear about other peoples experiences in doing this.

No offence to anyone but I would rather get feedback from people who have done this using leading brands such as Mapei, Ardex, weber & BAL etc

thanks

 

[Colour Republic]

I did one 9 years ago for a friends parents in a bathroom I fitted, I went back earlier this year to sort out a shower valve and the floor was sound as a pound. I have no idea what adhesive I used but back then I was using Granfix so could have been that. I should add it was the green moisture resistant contract flooring

 

[doug boardley]

I don't and never have done

 

[tfs]

Just thought I should add that there would be no judgement on my part against anyoneone who does this often. Big companys spend hundreds of thousands every year researching this and if they reccomend a product for it then there must be some evidence that this can be done.

Cheers to the guys that have answered already. feedback from anone else would be very appreciated.

 

[strummerman]

Hey folks,

Just wanted to ask how many of guys have tiled over chipboard and been in the game long enough to honestly say there have been no comebacks.

I know some adhesives are meant to be suitable e.g. Mapei Kerraquick with the latex plus. I have never done this as I feel very cuatious about tiling over chipboard without ply sheeting first so I am very interested to hear about other peoples experiences in doing this.

No offence to anyone but I would rather get feedback from people who have done this using leading brands such as Mapei, Ardex, weber & BAL etc

thanks

VERY BRAV PERSON ASKIN THAT QUESTION ON HERE WITH THIS LOT:lol:

 

[Colour Republic]

VERY BRAV PERSON ASKIN THAT QUESTION ON HERE WITH THIS LOT:lol:

Can't believe I admitted it, but no use in lying We've all done things in the past we may not do now, if you say you haven't then you're lying:ban:

 

[strummerman]

Can't believe I admitted it, but no use in lying We've all done things in the past we may not do now, if you say you haven't then you're lying:ban:

IN the good old days eh :hurray:

 

[Eddie]

I've used P,C,I Pecilastic membrane, over chipboard then tiled onto that.

 

[jay]

many many moons ago yes did a few no probs to date but now deffo dont have seen failures:8:

 

[tfs]

Fair enough. I personally don't have a problem, but I only asked is the public forum the right place to air ones mistakes? Why should you let 'joe public' know that such thing do or have happened in the past?


frogeye - just trying to help

Well it is a public forum as well.


Not realy a mistake if manufacturers such as Mapei reccomend products for such purposes. If anyone wants to mention issues they have had then thats welcome.

I just want as many answers/ experiences as possible.

 

[tfs]

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[tfs]

:mad2:😛rrr:

 

[tfs]

goodnight! :lol:

 

[DHTiling]

You feeling ok...:lol:

 

[Colour Republic]

Deleted... thought better of my post, as you were, nothing to see, move along

 

[Perry]

i have to some times but its 40mm thick and i insist on ordinary chipboard not the green one lol to much wax and its also steel joists at 300 centers and i stick Pci pesalastic down first with timber flex 😛ete

 

[Time's Ran Out]

I don't know where the Quote from 'frogeye' went about being a Public forum and not airing mistakes in public!

If no one made mistakes it would be a perfect world!

In 36 years I will have tiled on chipboard, PVA, thin plywood etc and everything else that was recommended and approved at that time!
I also remember when they put all soil pipes internal in blocks of flats and boarded them with ASBESTOS sheets!

Times change and progress is made.

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Direct to chipboard, never.:ban:

 

[tfs]

You feeling ok...:lol:

Few beers, unable to write sentences correctly, tired and grumpy! Thought it would be best to go to bed at that point:lol:

 

[tfs]

thanks for the replies guys. I did suspect that many peeps do this as there are products on the market for tiling over chipboard. I realy just wanted to hear if it does work, from experienced tilers who have done it.

 

[DHTiling]

The thing is with chipboard, is it is a compressed material and basicly just chippings and IMHO not stable enough to tile directly too...deffo needs some sort off over boarding..

 

[tfs]

The thing is with chipboard, is it is a compressed material and basicly just chippings and IMHO not stable enough to tile directly too...deffo needs some sort off over boarding..

I have always had the same opinion that tiling onto chipboard is wrong and would possibly result in a comeback at a later date. I have recently however been thinking to myself if manufacturers are naming a particular product as being suitable then surely it must be as they spend lots of money researching this.

It would be good if a rep or techi guy from one of these manufacturers could reply and tell us what makes there product suitable for tiling over chipboard.

reps & techi guys, can you comment?

 

[tfs]

If any reps do answer, please give more details than 'its suitable due to its s2 charachteristics' :lol:

Many tilers here will be in position where they are talking clients out of tiling onto chipboard so it would be handy to know why a particular product is suitable to use.

 

[DHTiling]

Adhesives do get better and better....i agree...but chipboard is chipboard and adhesive is only sticking to the surface, so be it a 1 part S2 or a 2 pack S2 or even an elastomeric adhesive like fast flex...it don't matter it is still chipboard the same product whether it is standard flexible or super super flexible adhesive...it is an unstable substrate and hates water..

 

[tfs]

I would be very interested in hearing any argument from a company that suggest chipboard is suitable for tiling over or why there product is suitable.

I agree exactly with what you said there Dave and its a very good point. Manny adhesives will stick to a tile and to a timer substrate. Manufacturers should just say all of there flexible adhesive will stick to Chipboard rather highlighting a specific product as being suitable for tiling over chipboard. By saying that something is suitable for tiling over chipboard manufacturers in my opinion are implying that chipboard is safe to tile to.

I promose to stop ranting lol, I have just been thinking about this recently and wanted some opinions from others.

 

[DHTiling]

Best thing is though....you tile to it and have a failure..the adhesive comp will not want to know....there will always be well did you do this and did you check for that and how much water is in that...:lol:...i stick to what works and that ain't chipboard...:dizzy2:

 

[Time's Ran Out]

thanks for the replies guys. I did suspect that many peeps do this as there are products on the market for tiling over chipboard. I realy just wanted to hear if it does work, from experienced tilers who have done it.

I hope that my earlier post was not taken out of context!
As technical advances occur over time and improvements are made with adhesives it is possible to tile onto wooden substrates with some degree of confidence.
However the very nature of chipboard - being open pored and liable to expansion when moisture is present - would surely make it one of the most unreliable surfaces along with hardboard that you could consider fixing tiles too.
From the replies you have received up to now I could not concur that many do tile on chipboard and from my own personal experience of repairing others work I would have to conclude that a professional tile fixer working in the domestic market would never consider tiling direct to chipboard!

 

[tfs]

As I said before I have always been against tiling onto the stuff. I some I would have also said this in previous posts in the past.

I guess to cut a long story short AVOID LIKE THE PLAQUE!:lol:

same goes for tongue and groove planks.

 

[DHTiling]

As I said before I have always been against tiling onto the stuff. I some I would have also said this in previous posts in the past.

I guess to cut a long story short AVOID LIKE THE PLAQUE!:lol:

same goes for tongue and groove planks.

Tooth paste helps that...:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[tfs]

😳:lol: I did mean to say avoid like the plague

Oh, dear.. I think I should attend a night class in English or something to help with my spelling.

 

[tfs]

As I said before I have always been against tiling onto the stuff. I some I would have also said this in previous posts in the past.

I guess to cut a long story short AVOID LIKE THE PLAQUE!:lol:

same goes for tongue and groove planks.

thats one of those posts that need to be deleted lol:lol: