I'm reading this and I'm feeling lonely!!!, 'cause I would like to work with all of you, too, and in this situation I would like to be a proper macho tiler with really good knees and strong as an ox who can hold lots of drink and all that. Instead I'm just me, who get's tipsy and giggly after half a pint of cider, who admires and is a bit obsessive about good tiling and would love to work with Dave the most, just because he seems to know it all and be kind with it, and all the elite members who know their stuff, too, and those I have had contacts and conversations outside of tiling, too and and and... but the fact is that really I'm only really good at the arty stuff and not really strong enough for tiling in the long run and a little too old for the heavy stuff, just ok in week long bursts,...soooo, taking a quick breath... I'll watch you from afar with a bit of envy and sip away at my cider....:smilewinkgrin: