Is it just me or ........

[widler]

you can do it this way too.... provided that your contracts of employment state that the employer is entitled to lay people off at times of downturn. but the chances of you getting employees to sign up to those terms is pretty slim.

I agree, employment law is onerous on very small businesses but it works very well at keeping large, multi-national, massive profit-making companies in check.

aye,agree GRR,its always the little people who pay the price.

i have a employee at the mo,fractured his wrist playing football,so has got a sicknote for 8 weeks,he is taking all that 8 weeks as well,and the way he is talking it will be more,i now have had to employ a lad to do a job which he could do with one hand,but he would rather stay at home with his SSP and put his feet up.
I have been back to work straight away with a broken shoulder also 2 weeks after i had my appendics out,both when i was serving my time in the 80's,i wanted to work,and was frighterned of loosing my job,
i also went back to work last year the week after i came out of hospital with a bleed on my brain,just so i was not leaving the lads to try and get the work done.
some people think that they are doing you a favour by them working for you,when in fact its the other way around,we are the ones taking risks,so we are the ones who should reap the benefits ,when and IF they materialise,which to most small firms,its a rarity

 

[Deleted member 9966]

Widler

if there are reasonable adjustments you can make to this lad's working environment so that he can do certain jobs requiring only the use of one hand, you are quite well within your rights to ask him to return to his GP and find out whether these adjustments are suitable bearing in mind the fractures. Fair enough, he might not be fit to do the manual work associated with your trade, but there's nothing to stop him booking materials, overseeing deliveries, ringing customers/suppliers, doing some paperwork etc. That way he can be back at work earning his full pay.

Better for him to be at work instead of sitting at home. You can always ask. If you don't ask, you don't get.

 

[widler]

Widler

if there are reasonable adjustments you can make to this lad's working environment so that he can do certain jobs requiring only the use of one hand, you are quite well within your rights to ask him to return to his GP and find out whether these adjustments are suitable bearing in mind the fractures. Fair enough, he might not be fit to do the manual work associated with your trade, but there's nothing to stop him booking materials, overseeing deliveries, ringing customers/suppliers, doing some paperwork etc. That way he can be back at work earning his full pay.

Better for him to be at work instead of sitting at home. You can always ask. If you don't ask, you don't get.

trust me,i have asked,his reply,these are his words "nah,ive got another 2 weeks,then pot off,then xray,and maybe if its right back to work".
personally its about what i have done for him this past 2 years,helping him out ect ect, he is taking the urine,i let my lads do what they want,im not a stress head,im a good boss,ive never had a lad do this to me,i expect as much respect as i give them.
but when he comes back,no more picking him up and dropping him off at his door,no more early darts,no more days off when we are quite with pay,no more using his phone in work time,his life is gonna be hell :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Deleted member 9966]

trust me,i have asked,his reply,these are his words "nah,ive got another 2 weeks,then pot off,then xray,and maybe if its right back to work".
personally its about what i have done for him this past 2 years,helping him out ect ect, he is taking the urine,i let my lads do what they want,im not a stress head,im a good boss,ive never had a lad do this to me,i expect as much respect as i give them.
but when he comes back,no more picking him up and dropping him off at his door,no more early darts,no more days off when we are quite with pay,no more using his phone in work time,his life is gonna be hell :smilewinkgrin:

more fool him for accepting his situation. jobseekers allowance is less than SSP :smilewinkgrin: