Is it just me....

[John Benton]

.....or has anyone else noticed an increase in customers posting pics ad looking for advice on poor tile fixing over the last few months?

I'm just wondering where all these poor tradesmen are coming from. Does anyone know? Are they builders, plumbers etc who are just trying to squeeze more money out of a job.

What are peoples' thoughts on this topic please?

 

[White Room]

Moved to the arms John, can see this being a lively debate...

 

[John Benton]

Moved to the arms John, can see this being a lively debate...

Baited breath and all that...

 

[Dougs Third Go]

Moved to the arms John, can see this being a lively debate...

you must've moved it when I was replying in original forum..I'll have to retype it now:lol:

 

[Dougs Third Go]

I think a lot of customers are just going for the lowest quote John thinking they'll save money....but we know it doesn't work that way

 

[kilty55]

i think its people trying to turn there hand to anythign and everything and also i would think some of them are actually diy jobs gone wrong just comes down to money just now as a lot pf people are trying to keep things tight

 

[White Room]

you must've moved it when I was replying in original forum..I'll have to retype it now:lol:

 

[John Benton]

I think a lot of customers are just going for the lowest quote John thinking they'll save money....but we know it doesn't work that way

That may well be the case Doug but it doesn't answer who it is that's actually doing the jobs.

Looking through a lot of posts it appears to me that it's builders who seem to be completing jobs.

 

[Rookery]

I met a builder a couple of weeks ago who thinks he's done a good job in the bathroom by plying out all the walls and floor before tiling, but he wouldnt use a tanking kit. Also I know of a plumber who admits he doesnt like tiling but has started to do it himself rather than sub out to a pro to get more money out of a job. What can you do?

 

[Ian]

This is just the beginning of a mountain of failed/failing jobs. Been 2 or 3 years now since the 'recession' really bit, and now we are starting to see the outcome.

 

[John Benton]

This is just the beginning of a mountain of failed/failing jobs. Been 2 or 3 years now since the 'recession' really bit, and now we are starting to see the outcome.

These cheap jobs are really coming home to roost now.

 

[White Room]

I know a couple of tilers who now refuse to work for some builders, there prep is dire.....

 

[Martyn Leeds]

I'd like to think its customers going for the cheapest quote - but I don't think thats the case. Sometimes they've been charged a hefty price for a bodge job.

I think its other trades giving it a go, builders or plumbers saving a bit of ££'s on a tilers fee, because its easy, anyone can tile.

 

[Ian]

I went to look at a job a couple of weeks ago, utility floor, floorboards prepped with 6mm ply. I said I wouldn't tile onto 6mm ply and the classic 'well all the other floors in the house have been done like that and they're ok', line came out, so I asked to look at them and every one (two bathrooms and the kitchen), had hairline cracks appearing in the grout, all laid in the last 18 months. I tried to be constructive with my criticism but, I didn't get the job because my prep suggestions were over the top.

 

[John Benton]

I went to look at a job a couple of weeks ago, utility floor, floorboards prepped with 6mm ply. I said I wouldn't tile onto 6mm ply and the classic 'well all the other floors in the house have been done like that and they're ok', line came out, so I asked to look at them and every one (two bathrooms and the kitchen), had hairline cracks appearing in the grout, all laid in the last 18 months. I tried to be constructive with my criticism but, I didn't get the job because my prep suggestions were over the top.

And they're the ones with cracked grout and potentially lifting tiles very soon! Some people never learn!!!

 

[gamma38]

Anyone can tile, anyone can plumb, anyone can do electrics and so on, i'm not so sure it's any one trade, i think that it's rife across all trades. Not sure of the reasons, price is one for sure, but also the customer's to blame as well. I go round so many houses to hear the words can't you just quote for the lot like the last guy did????? go figure. I feel it will go full circle and individual trades will slowly just return to there respective trades as more of these problems come out, the guy's doing them will shy away. That's what i'm hoping will happen anyway.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

It's just you! Ha ha.
There has always been bad tiling but the success of this Forum (IMHO ) just brings it to 1 place and more noticeable.
For me it is the customers fault for not doing their research on the tradesman or asking for references. Either that or they're trying to get a top job for budget price - now that is not to say it should be of lower standard, they are buying cheap tiles expecting a quality finish.

 

[STEVO]

I know a lad i used to work with few yrs ago, a qualified electrician. apparently he is now doing bathroom refits and bits of plumbing stuff! Making a bloody mess of it all as well from what i can gather. Gods knows why he is trying to do that when he could easily stick to thew sparking. rings me/texts me every now and then to see can i do a job, i have to just ignore the call or "sorry im busy"

 

[CJ]

Like others, I think a lot of builders, plumbers & handyman types are trying to cash in on wot they call, "an easy trade"

then quickly make an ar55e of it.........then we get the call?

 

[The D]

I met a builder a couple of weeks ago who thinks he's done a good job in the bathroom by plying out all the walls and floor before tiling, but he wouldnt use a tanking kit. Also I know of a plumber who admits he doesnt like tiling but has started to do it himself rather than sub out to a pro to get more money out of a job. What can you do?

you can start doing the plumbing :smilewinkgrin:

 

[John Benton]

you can start doing the plumbing :smilewinkgrin:

Didn't you say you were doing a course Dean?

 

[DHTiling]

I'ts the " I can do that " crew and they will always be about... the more bad jobs posted on here and google ranks said threads , so they show up on searches and then the ball rolls and others post here of their bad jobs etc etc and so on and on...

The market place is full of muppet tilers ( uses tiler loosely ) and muppet customers.. and quite a few times these 2 muppets deserve each other .. then other times customers get ripped..

 

[gamma38]

I'ts the " I can do that " crew and t hey will always be about... the more bad jobs posted on here and google ranks said threads , so they show up on searches and then the ball rolls and others post here of their bad jobs etc etc and so on and on...

The market place is full of muppet tilers ( uses tiler loosely ) and muppet customers.. and quite a few times these 2 muppets deserve each other .. then other times customer get ripped..

Very well worded.....

 

[The D]

Didn't you say you were doing a course Dean?

yes m8 i am

 

[John Benton]

How's it going?